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Fri, 27 May 05

Safety tip #2

Always remember the first words of the Bible (according to the play Shopping and Fucking, anyway)
Get The Money First!
We know that some people don't do this.
Some male escorts in particular leave the money until afterwards in the hope of getting paid more than was agreed. Others don't like sorting out the money at the start, because they think it affects the "boy/girlfriend experience" they offer.
But it's risky.
The main reason for this is that the client can turn around at the end and say they're not paying.
In the UK, criminal law (the state dealing with people who are accused of commiting crimes) is largely separate from civil law (dealing with disputes between people).
Civil law
Unfortunately for escorts, contracts based on sex (e.g. "I'll have sex with you if you pay me!") will not be enforced by English courts.
One example is of a man who sold a car to a woman for a combination of money and having sex with her so many times. She then decided she didn't want to have sex with him that often, and he sued for return of the car. The courts said "tough" and she kept the car.
So it's no use suing a client who's refusing to pay you.
(Until the Gambling Act 2005, they wouldn't enforce gambling debts either, so until this year if someone refused to pay up on a bet, the courts would have said that it's a matter of honour and had nothing to do with it.)
The good news, if you've been given a cheque that's bounced or been stopped by the client, is that the courts will enforce that - it doesn't matter that the cheque was written as part of a sexual arrangement, by giving you a cheque they are acknowledging that they do owe you money.
Criminal Law
There is an offence of Obtaining Services By Deception (section one of the Theft Act 1978):
1) A person who by any deception dishonestly obtains services from another shall be guilty of an offence
2) It is an obtaining of services where the other is induced to confer a benefit by doing some act or causing or permitting some act to be done, on the understanding that the benefit has been or will be paid for.
The punishment for doing so is up to five years in prison.
The deal needn't be one that the civil courts would enforce, e.g. if you have sex with someone only because they promised to pay you and they don't, they can be found guilty of this offence.
If this has happened to you, let us know. We're currently helping several escorts who have had this done to them by the same client.
Although it's necessary that money is involved, the actual deception need not be about the payment. So it is possible that a client who lies about using a condom could also be guilty if you only have sex with him on that basis.

But let's say it again: your life will be easier if you always remember
Get The Money First!
Make sure you know where the money is during the service. Wallets and bags with velcro fastenings are good for this: they make a loud tearing sound when opened, so it's difficult for anyone to open them without you noticing.
Don't keep it with any other money you have with you. It's a good idea not to have anything with you wouldn't be prepared to lose if you had to leave in a hurry anyway.

Replies: 396 comments

I have come across this site quite by accident. I am a gay man but not a "worker" but I am very glad to see that someone has taken the initiative to give good sensible advice to those who work in a potentially dangerous area.
Good luck everyone.

Posted by Sabre on 15 Aug 05

i have paid a registration fee of 200 pounds this week to an escort agency and have just come accross this web site. i am feeling slighly dubious now as to *will i get a phone call with work, as promised*. i will send a comment in if this turns out to be the case, with all details of agency.

Posted by anna on 02 Nov 05

Paying agencies - don't
Let me guess - only-by-invitation?
There are two sorts of 'agencies'. Ones which make their money from finding you work and ones which make their money from getting gullible escorts to pay them.
No real agency should ever charge you money. They take some of the money the client pays (75% for you, 25% for them is considered an acceptable split) in exchange for actively finding you clients.
In most cases, the latter are really advertising sites: you pay them money for them to advertise your services. They don't do any real advertising to find you clients themselves, don't arrange bookings, don't check clients out etc etc.
There's nothing particularly wrong with being an advertising site, charging escorts to advertise on it, if the rates are reasonable and you get work as a result.
However what the scam sites tend to do is to a) charge too much and b) make it too difficult for anyone to see your ad.
Several, including onlybyinvitation or Network Escorts actually expect potential clients to pay them before they will give them the details that you are paying them to advertise! How many clients are going to do that?
For some better ideas as to where to advertise, have a look at www.saafe.co.uk and, when it is back online, ask on www.escortwatch.org
Think 'how would I find an escort like me if I were looking?' and consider the places you look. Contact some of the people advertising there and see if they find it worthwhile.

Posted by SW5 on 03 Nov 05

Right Girls! oh n Guys for that matter!
Hold your breath........I and another escort have just got stung by Unique Escorts (also known as naughtybutnice) 077674812**
In short agreed a fee turned up no answer on phone so we left. Agency rang back later apologising booking back on. Turned back up at hotel and proceeded to "party" for 4 hours. After this time the clients got very abusive (physically and verbally) and for our own safety we left.
Upon contacting the agency they are refusing to pay us as we didnt complete the overnight booking!!!!
I am currently receiving legal advice on this matter and will keep you all up to date with this.
So the warning was true and i only wish i had read these forums earlier.
Keep away girls.
Sue x

Posted by Sue on 07 Nov 05

I recently signed up to network escorts after seeing their ad on a google search, how very clever they are at scamming people. Now their policy is...they dont charge you a penny until you start to recieve bookings, now, im new to this so i fell for it. As soon as i registered they said i had a booking, which happened to be at least one month away, meaning they could guarentee to get some money out of me, anyway, i turned up to the booking, done everthing that was asked, and no show. I waited for an hour, felt like an idiot, and also felt very angry bout the lack of details etc i was given (again, it was the 1st time ive done this so didnt know how it worked really).
Im almost 100% certain that there was no client or booking, it was just a scam so they could get my money, and to make matters worse, i pnoned them up to report this and heard nothing for a week, so i rang again, the staff are both VERY RUDE, UN CARING and USELESS!, as soon as i questioned their approach they get funny as if im the one who's screwed them out of money.
As it stands now, they told me to write a letter to them to make a claim for my refund, but im not holding my breath, i doubt they'll even open it. All i can say to people thinking bout doing this is... **DONT BOTHER, NETWORK ESCORTS ARE A CON, THEY MAKE UP BOOKINGS AND WASTE YOUR TIME, SAVE YOUR MONEY AND DONT FALL FOR THEIR RUBBISH THAT THEY FEED YOU ON THE PHONE EITHER, SAME PROBABLY GOES FOR 99% OF MALE ESCORT AGENCIES.

Posted by paul on 01 Dec 05

Network Escorts
Yep. We wonder if it was our comments that have led them to withdraw some of their more outrageous claims. It also looks like they've stopped charging people wanting to make a booking... but they've increased how much they charge the poor men who have signed up for their 'service'.
But still if you put 'male escorts' (or even 'network escorts') into Google, their own site doesn't appear in the first page of listings. This is one of the reasons they pay to have a sponsored listing (i.e. an ad) at the top of the page.
You may be interested to know that it costs them money every time someone clicks on those ads...

Posted by SW5 on 02 Dec 05

yep, i think network escort are scam, am glad i never paid them any money when i regestered with them as they asked me to pay 250pounds to find me work.At the moment am a happy girl working with another agency in essex which i do get paid well and i cant complain about them at all.i only pay them when i get a booking and they do also offer a driver to take you round and look after you.
Don't waste your time and money with network agencies

Posted by amber on 21 Dec 05

Network Escorts
As you might expect, we've had quite a few emails about them.
While we go 'argh' at hearing about people being ripped-off, our hearts have a little beat of happiness every time someone tells us how they're not going to give them any money... so thank you.

Posted by SW5 on 23 Dec 05

ehm, sound so good to be true:
thanks for your response,i would be payig you 1000pounds for the two nights then,i would also want you to know that we would be staying in an hotel when i arrive in london if that is o.k by you,and we would be attendin a cocktails party of a senate arrangment,and the next day would be an official reception,so i would be glad if this two outing are o.k by you.
i would also send you my picture after you repy this email,so you know what i look like, would also want you to kow that i would have to make the payment to you by sending you a london cashier cheque which would be delievered to you next week.
so right now all i need is your details so that the payment would not be delayed in anyway,cos i really want you as my escort on those days,if you agree to this you might be my only escort whenever i come to london for events cos i come often.
i need your details in this format
1)name
2)address
3)phone number
thanks and hope to read from you soon
gloss
-----------------------------
i suggested her to pay me via paypal... let's see what happens next...

Posted by tommy on 06 Jan 06

Too good to be true
Yes, it does sound that way.
My guess is that you'll be asked to pay something to another account, possibly via a payment service like Western Union. Once that's done, you'll discover that the cheque is no good.
Anyone using Paypal to receive sex work related payments should be aware that they can 'fine' you £350 and close your account if they find out about it - see their terms and conditions. There are alternative payment services who are not so prudish.

Posted by SW5 on 09 Jan 06

Why can't you all just get a proper job.When I was a student doctor I scrubbed floors,worked as a barmaid and a waitress.I know they don't pay well.But at least it's honest work.
I rember having to patch up numerous "Escort Workers" in A&E would had been assaulted by "punters" as it was so delicately put.
My advice is get a proper job.

Posted by Charlie on 19 Jan 06

Proper job!
We think sex work is, or can be, a 'proper job'.
It's certainly not for everyone - see our Is Sex Work For You? leaflet - but it is a valid choice for some which should be respected and it's one we're happy to support people with.
(Of course, if they want to stop, we're happy to support them doing that too.)
We also don't see what is inherently 'dishonest' about what is legal work. Did you ever smile at customers when working as a barmaid or a waitress, despite internally wishing your shift was over?
Thank you for your work in A&E.
Violence against sex workers is of course illegal and taken more seriously by police than ever before, but there are still people who think it is acceptable.
In some cases, the attackers don't think it is a 'proper job' and take their frustrations and anger out through violence.
However, the better the working conditions, and the more support is available, the safer it is.
A bit like the way improving the hours and conditions for trainee and junior doctors makes everyone's life better: the doctors, other staff, and patients really.

Posted by SW5 on 19 Jan 06

What I ment by honest work was that many "Escorts" are also claiming benefits etc or not declaring their "Escort Wages" to the tax man.
Of course I used to smile constantly while working as a waitress and barmaid.As if you were polite you received better tips.
I worked in Thailand for a while I was mortified that poor parents sold their children into the sex trade at 8 years old.
I worked with a project that looked after abandond babies of H.I.V.mothers.They were nearly all sex trade workers who could not look after their children.So they were dumped on the door step of the project.I did what I could for the children,but knew I could not save them.
And as for safety,if the sex trade was regulated like Holland.Where everything is regulated and above board and the workers pay tax on their earnings.It would be safer for all concerned.

Posted by Charlie on 21 Jan 06

Glad I did a Google on Network Escort Scam and found you. I signed up on their website and they posted stuff through to me asking for a standing order of £47.50 per month. Dubious looking photocopied standing order form and repeat promise of shortage of escorts in my area (thought I'd seen all this before in another profession!).
Bonus is I have stamped envelope. Just label over their address and put on anything I like (23 pence up I'd say).

Posted by Steve G on 23 Jan 06

Proper job 2
Hmm, how many restaurant and bar staff declare their full earnings?
To be serious, anyone advertising as a sex worker and not telling the taxman about their earnings is taking a huge risk. We strongly advise against it.
It depends on what you mean by regulation. Trying to get workers to register is futile at best and actively harmful at worst, for example.
Have a look at the response of the UK Network of Sex Work Projects to the 'Paying the Price' consultation for more. It's at www.uknswp.org

Posted by SW5 on 26 Jan 06

I have been trying toget into male escorting for a while but after seeing the companys who 'Charge' for signing up,
i have signed up with 1 agency that i have paid £50 for ''signing up'
i would like to know are there any agencys out there that are not out there 2 rip any one off!!
if so please let me kno!

Posted by Danthetan on 29 Jan 06

Re Proper Job 2
What I ment by "Regulation" In Holland all sex workers are registered the places they work in are registered.All the workers go for regular tests.(I had a 13 year old with Syphilis on my unit last week her mother that it was a water infection.)
When a place is registered you don't get bully boys from the Vice Squad taking a back hander.
I am not knocking what you do for a living,what ever makes you happy.
I just want you all to be safe and healthy.

Posted by Charlie on 31 Jan 06

Network escort is a total scam, i also paid the £47 to join and got a booking in a month, that was a few weeks ago and the booking is ment to be next week, after readin this i aint goin to turn up to look daft so i will just cancel my standin order with them and cut my losses, im also in the process of joinin Cavendish Knights which i think is a better compay as they dont make money unless they find u work when come to think of it why the hell did i sign up to Network escort?? owell u live u learn as they say, all id say is dont what ever u do join Network escort!!!

Posted by Paul on 03 Feb 06

Cavendish Knights
Thanks to several reports, we think it is more than likely that CK are not worth bothering with either. They are less expensive, but for many men they do not seem to be able to generate the business in return for the money they do charge.

Posted by SW5 on 12 Feb 06

i get what you mean but Cavendish Knights do not charge you monthly so if they dont find you work they dont make any money

Posted by Paul on 13 Feb 06

Thank God I stumbled across this site!
Was so close to sending off the standing order mandate to Network Escorts. I found it strange that when i told them that i wanted to pay via debit card at the end of each month after work they said that id have to pay to months in advance paying this way!
Its lucky really becuase its this which made me look into this whole thing more and luckily came across SW5. So which agencies are liable to get you ligit work if any?!

Posted by Ben on 21 Feb 06

Cavendish Knights and Network Escorts
CK - yes, it is only one payment, but if you would like to send us the £17.50 instead, a) we would use the money to help maintain our services and b) you'll probably get exactly the same amount of work as a result, i.e. nil, but we hope you'll feel better.
NE - hooray!
See sw5.info/straightmen.htm

Posted by SW5 on 22 Feb 06

Signed up with Network Escorts, and they took the money out before even telling me i had a booking. I called and told them and they said i would have one in a couple of days. I gave them the benefit of the doubt but after hearing nothing i called them again...spoke again to a very rude woman (how they sleep at night i don't know!) and told them i wanted the money putting back into my account until i had a booking. I was told that they had no record of my standing order and that i should send them a bank statement to prove it. So, in reply i said that i'll just get my bank to cancel it...so i call my bank and they are on it and should have the money back in 3-5 days, hopefully! Also cancelled order with them. Scumbags!
I like the google adwords thing metioned earlier :) I'll be setting up a macro later and leaving it clicking back and forth as i go to work for 8 hours...wonder how many i can clock up!!!
My star sign is a scorpio...they had my date of birth so they should have known better than to make one of us mad....muahahaha!

Posted by Rich on 24 Feb 06

Network Escorts (again again!)
We don't advocate setting up such a system.
If you chose to do so anyway, you may find that cookies set by Google detect such 'clicks' as repeats and only charges Network Escorts once, or once per day or once per some other period of time.
Even if you delete such cookies each time, it's possible that multiple 'clicks' from the same IP address will be treated as one by Google.

Posted by SW5 on 05 Mar 06

Hi I am currently looking into becoming a female escort in Essex but am worried about getting ripped off. Can anyone tell me a good Escort agency to work for and where to look.

Posted by Georgina on 16 Mar 06

I have the same question as Georgina, I would like to begin my career as male escort and really don't know how. I found some customers on Gaydar, but it's not enought for survive :(

Posted by JB on 02 Apr 06

oh its all getting pear shaped for me here.. i hope my client will turn up!!

Posted by hellolondon on 10 Apr 06

Has anyone been approached by an agency called sunshine girls? They are a bogus agency that set me up last year, and I ended up being robbed in a hotel room. Martin Reeves, the officer at Slough Police that dealt with the situation refused to take it at all seriously. I had forgotten it when the same agency called me again the other day! Beware peeps, looks like the "sunshine Girls" scam is still up and running..

Posted by Sarah on 08 May 06

Sunshine Girls
We've responded to Sarah privately.
See our home page for other details about this 'agency'.

Posted by SW5 on 12 May 06

OOhpsie!!! got to rush off to my bank to stop that standing i set up with the network scammers,so many people *cannot be wrong*, jus feeling pretty dissmal about the whole escort thing,i jus think these people consider us as desparados, rather than *real people* who would take the time to offer our personal services to those who need it and are willing to pay for it,if they are treating escorts this way, how can any escort feel safe providing the services they do when the said agency does not even*care about the escorts themselves*

Posted by Mr. Comfy on 19 May 06

Hi, now after reading all of this about network escorts, and how i nearly got sucked in, i think it is about time they got a bit of flack themselves. i think a date should be set where anybody who has had a problem with this agency in the past should give them an abusive or just plain annoying phone call, and let it continue throughout the day. See how they like getting taken for a mug!!
here's the number, now how about getting rid of some of that pent-up frustration :)
0208 4928800
9Am-6pm Mon -Thurs
9am-5pm Friday
Revenge can be so sweet.
P.S great site!! glad to see someone has taken it upon themselves to expose these money sucking scamsters for what they really are.

Posted by jackass on 22 May 06

Same goes for REBECCA's NATIONWIDE MALE ESCORTS. Scam scam scam. Might I suggest that setting up your own internet site and directly marketing is the best way forward....

Posted by Julian on 23 May 06

STARNEST IS SCAM. I JOINED THE AGENCY SOME TIME AGO WAS GARENTEED WORK WITHIN 2 WEEKS . WE HAVE STOPPED THAT WENDY RECIEVING MONEY FROM MALAGA . THE POLICE HAVE BEEN INFORMED YOU LOT GET ALL YA MONEY BACK I DONT CARE WHAT IT COSTS THEY WILL GET STOPPED REAL SOON GUYS N GIRLS

Posted by helen on 24 May 06

starnest....ooops signed up with them already. looks like i got scammed. wish id done more research! they seemed like such nice people too, if a little hard to get hold of! live and learn eh, but that lesson was a bit expensive.

Posted by red on 01 Jun 06

Hi, I would like to ask if anyone has ever had dealings with an agency called Sol_Mates based in Malaga.. Good or bad its important. Many thanks Brad.

Posted by Brad on 16 Jun 06

Hi,
Yup I have been scammed too by Starnest!Within the same week of signing up I asked for a refund. They had not advertised me accurately and there was no photo. they have since ignored my mails. I will take them to small claims I think? They need stopping.

Posted by j on 16 Jun 06

Sol-Mates
They seem to be reasonably recent and look to be a con on several grounds but I don't know of anyone who's actually gone on their (not free) course.
I wouldn't give them anything.

Posted by Richard on 19 Jun 06

Here's yet another sucker who has been duped by Network Escort scammers. Has anyone managed to get a refund once their standing order had been set up? Also, are there any legitimate agencies out there that cater for straight males?

Posted by Tony on 20 Jun 06

Network Escorts
I take it you didn't get any real bookings, just no-shows to keep you paying up?
Morally, they stink, but I don't think they're doing anything legally wrong, so getting the money back would be difficult. (It's probably one of the reasons they don't accept credit cards or direct debits, which would be easier to get refunds on.)
They're also relying on people being too embarrassed to complain to anyone else.
How much was the standing order for? If it was for 47.50 UKP, then you could try complaining about being overcharged to your bank - the last time I looked, their terms and conditions still said 37.50 UKP.
The more people who come to sites like this and discover the truth about them, the better.

Posted by Richard on 20 Jun 06

Hi Richard
I only signed up with Network Escorts a couple of weeks ago in the naive belief that they would not start my standing order until I received bookings - as stated in their literature. However, money came out of my account before I got a booking.
Oh, I've since got a booking 'to be confirmed' on 29th June and also a confirmed booking on...4th August! A dark-haired lady in a hotel who'll be reading the Daily Mail.
I'm thinking of going down the County Court Small Claims route to get my money back on the basis that they took money without providing work.

Posted by Tony on 21 Jun 06

I have just cancelled my standing order with the Bank before Network will have a chance to setup. Thanks for the warnings of this site, you just saved me £47.50 !!!

Posted by Dave on 23 Jun 06

hello im thinking about going on the trip or seminar to spain for an agency called [SOL-MATES] has anybody got information on them please let me know, or if anyone knows any true male escort agencies please let me know. thanks.

Posted by barry on 04 Jul 06

Sol-Mates
Sol-Mates sets off all of our alarm bells as to being a con.
They're charging you money, over three hundred pounds, plus the cost of getting to Spain. Real agencies do not charge their staff, they make their money from finding their staff clients.
Like Network Escorts, this lot now charge men more than when we first noticed them. Why? Because they're not making any money from women!
There is nothing to indicate that they do, in fact, have any clients. Nothing comes up on Google for example, yet if they did have the stream of rich women they claim, you'd expect someone to have written something somewhere about it.
There is also nothing to indicate that there is any demand for British straight male escorts in Spain. A quick search reveals no hordes of women bemoaning the difficulty of finding male escorts. (If you were a woman on the Costa Del Sol and you wanted casual sex or a 'fling' with a British man, how difficult do you think it would be to find without paying?)
They've become even less visible to potential clients - the main www.easyrealityrecruiting.com front page gives no indication of this side to their 'business' and we can't get their ads to appear on Google any more, despite trying various keywords. (Perhaps they've run out of money.)
Once you've found them, their site doesn't exactly inspire confidence that the 'testamonial' (sic) were actually written by satisfied customers: most women executives can spell and use punctuation correctly!
It's not clear exactly which laws they want any contract to be under - it's not even clear which Eastern European country they are based in (both Hungary and Bulgaria are claimed in different places).
Finally, look at it from the perspective of a potential client: would you book an escort, sight unseen, for your Spanish holiday, at 850 Euro a day, with a company based somewhere in Eastern Europe? If so, we know people who want to sell this bridge...
Having said that, if you do decide to go through with it, do let us know what happens.
It's unlikely that it will be a similar experience to the film Hostel (though if you wanted to attract victims - ones who pay for the privilege too! - this would be one way to do it) but we think you'd have a far better time spending the money on a holiday in Spain rather than giving it to this bunch.
There are quite a few "true male escort agencies", but the overwhelming number of them are for male clients... because the overwhelming number of clients for male escorts are men. Anyone who tells you otherwise is after your money.
www.sw5.info/straightmen.htm
If you're based in or around London, one agency has just got a lot better with their Google Adwords advertising. (It's not Cavendish Knights or any of the other companies named in www.sw5.info/cons.htm)

Posted by SW5 on 05 Jul 06

I have recently investigated the legal position of consent to sex with a condom and how the law saw this inrelation to the consent being acheived by deception in relation to both sexual assult or a fradulant act that would be covered by the civil courts for obtaining by deception etc.
Unfortunatly as always the law is much slower to protect the individual than property or buisness.
The law sees consent as consent, unless the person is knowingly carrying a std and passes it on.
The deception law is not applicable as long as they pay.
My friend a Q.C searched hard , it clearly is rape and assult , but without a precedent it is a virtually insurmountable task to get any justice.
I do wonder though , does anyone know , if money isnt involved what is the situation with condoms that are removed or damaged with intent?

Posted by vic on 08 Jul 06

Removing condoms
It's not mentioned there, to avoid complicating the issue, but as well as promising to pay and failing to do so, the R v Linekar [1995] QB 251 case mentioned on the sw5.info/rape.htm page, also involved promising to use a condom and not doing so.
So the Court of Appeal didn't see it as rape then, but given that they've since seen fit to overturn 'Clarence' in relation to STIs, it's not impossible that they'd would do so now.
It'd be difficult though, because where do you draw the line? 'I only consented because they said they were infertile / weren't married / wouldn't come in my mouth / did love me.. and they weren't / were / did / didn't?'
I suspect they'd still say 'not rape' - especially if there were no physical consequences to not, in fact, using a condom properly. Even when there have been consequences (e.g. in the HIV cases) the charges have been in relation to that, not rape.
Feel free to email SW5 with more info about this.

Posted by SW5 on 09 Jul 06

STAR NEST
Oh no, im worried now as to what to expect, i signed up to Starnest escorts for males 5 days ago paying £270 up front, and now looking at the site i cant see away that they do advertise to people... so any suggestion to what i should do now or what action i should take?
Has anyone actually ever managed to get any where with an agency/advertising company. and if so who? and if not what did they do.

Posted by James on 10 Jul 06

Sol-Mates 2
We've now had a chance to see the email they send to prospective victims - the promises they make are completely unrealistic: earnings of a minimum of 600 Euro (about 400 pounds) per day, a minimum of twenty days a month, plus expenses and accomodation costs, plus any tips.
Sadly, this has about as much chance of coming true as Neville Chamberlain's 1938 declaration of "peace in our time" or Ally McLeod's guarantee that Scotland would reach the final of the 1978 World Cup. (Insert your favourite horribly wrong promise if necessary.)
For a start, if there were enough demand to make this possible, Sol-Mates wouldn't need to charge for their 'seminar'.
So if you do go there, our guess is that - at best - you'll be exploited ('trained') for a week before being rejected as not meeting their standards.

Posted by SW5 on 10 Jul 06

Starnest
Yep, they're awful.
How did you pay and where did you find them?
You've almost certainly lost the money, but if you complain to the publisher of the ads, they may find it harder to advertise in future.
There are good places to advertise - think of how you would find an escort - but remember that most of the clients for male escorts are men.

Posted by Richard on 10 Jul 06

I paid over the phone by card, they were advertising in the local paper you see.
do you think there could be some law they are breaking as over the phone they told me they could prob get me 5/6 clients a month... so would that be averbal contract?
any other advice, not happy that they are prob not going to be for real..

Posted by **RE: Star Nest** on 10 Jul 06

Starnest 2
Ah, if it was a credit card, complain to the issuer now.
You're in a weaker position if you used a debit card, but it still may be worthwhile complaining to the bank.
If you know in what part of the country they are - there doesn't seem to be any sort of address on the website, then also complain to the Trading Standards department of their local council.

Posted by Richard on 11 Jul 06

*NETWORK*
I'V JUST RETURNED FROM THE POST BOX WHERE I POSTED THE STANDING ORDER FORM BACK TO NETWORK. LITERALLY MINUTES LATER I CAME ACROSS THIS SITE. THINK I'LL BE GOING BACK TO INTERCEPT MR POSTMAN AND GET IT BACK.
CHEERS!

Posted by martin on 11 Jul 06

Network Escorts again again
If the postperson - not unreasonably - declines to give you something that's been posted (how would they know it was you that posted it?) don't forget that you can cancel standing orders at any time, even before they start, by contacting your bank.
This does remind me that SW5 could use some more money. Working with sex workers has always been harder to raise funds for than 'rescuing' them, hence the closure of SW5's cafe service.
If everyone who's been saved from sending money to scams like Network Escorts sent something to SW5 instead, they'd get the same amount of work from it - none! - but infinitely more satisfaction...

Posted by Richard on 12 Jul 06

STARNEST
Ok sounds good but what do i complain about?

Posted by James on 12 Jul 06

does ne1 no of any networks that dont scam and get u work also is it iligal 4 17 yr olds to sell thanx 4the site great help

Posted by jayjay on 12 Jul 06

STARNEST ESCORT AGENCY
I recently joined Starnest with a friend, and we were told we would be out working within 5 days. It is now 8 weeks later, and we have not had any work whatsoever!!The staff there are rude and patronising, and i would not reccommend this agency to anyone!!

Posted by Purple on 18 Jul 06

Under 18s
It's legal for under 18s to sell sex, but it's very possible that Social Services could become involved if it were discovered.
In addition, everyone else connected with the sex work is acting illegally: it is illegal for anyone to buy from someone they don't "reasonably believe" is at least 18, for example.
Similarly there are severe penalties for anyone "inciting", "controlling", or "facilitating" someone under 18 selling sex. Facilitation would probably, for example, include allowing them to advertise.
You don't have to be over 18 to be charged with these: a 17 year old 'helping' another 17 year old could be charged.
If you are under 18, no reasonable agency etc will want to be connected with you in any way - that leaves the ones you wouldn't want to go near at any age.

Posted by SW5 on 18 Jul 06

Starnest 3
The more research you do before handing over large quantities of money, the better.
Anyone who disagrees is invited to send all their used twenty pound notes to [deleted!]
As far as what to complain about - they promised you lots of work and they haven't (can't) deliver. Try pointing the card company here - there are lots of complaints about them.

Posted by Richard on 18 Jul 06

Starnest...... anyone who has joined.... sorry its a crock ov shit,i just don't understand how people can lie just to extort money from someone. well me and my mate are taking it all the way... small claims court, newspapers, were going to write a letter to every advertiser who has placed there deceiving and lying ad!!!

Posted by shorty on 23 Jul 06

can somebody please reccommend rather than slag a good agency that actually gets you work.
really wanting to start work soon
but dont want to get ripped off
thank you for your help

Posted by matt on 25 Jul 06

Does anyone want to join a group which is trying to get their money back from Starnest? We're going to take legal action, and the more people who join us, the more likely the small claims court will be able to get the money back for us.
michelle

Posted by michelle on 28 Jul 06

Cant believe ive only just found this site! Joined up to starnest on Thursday! Just read what everyone else has gone through with them so really worried now. I paid £320! If i dont get any work im definately going to join up with all you guys taking them to court.

Posted by james s on 28 Jul 06

By the way if anyone does know of any good agency's for me to contact i would really appreciate some advice. Feel free to e-mail me. Thanks everyone.

Posted by james s on 28 Jul 06

Phew ,glad i came across this site, got a letter back from network today, read it briefly this afternoon, I thought at the time the paperwork looks shabby and thrown together.
I think all us guys should wake up, no matter how good looking and gorgeous we all are, are women really going to pay us 65 quid an hour just for the pleasure of our company? I think not.
Good luck to everyone who have been ripped off, lets hope they get closed down soon.

Posted by Mark on 08 Aug 06

I am considering working for rebecca's nationwide escorts.Can anyone give their opinion of this agency before i part with any cash.

Posted by M Richards on 10 Aug 06

Rebecca's Nationwide Male Escorts
Well, there's a comment above calling them a 'SCAM SCAM SCAM' and, indeed, a quick look at their website suggests that this could well be the case: it wants prospective escorts to pay £20 (£35 if you wish to offer a massage service as well?!) plus £5 per month.
So, it falls into SW5's category of an advertising site rather than an agency, even though it tries to set fees for booking you.
Oh, yes, it also wants to invoice you for 10% of any of those fees you are paid by clients, but I think it's safe to say that doesn't happen very often.
Would you book an escort from them? You can't see anyone on the site, you can't see what services are on offer (one "Services offered by Male Escorts" link points to a file on a PC used by a "Gavin Marsden") and the "Contact us" page is devoted to recruiting new escorts.
The application form (which I recommend to anyone looking for a laugh) says they are "recruiting for a short period only" - yeah, right - and "unlike other agencies we also take bookings for you" - this is what escort agencies are supposed to do!
(There is a 'Money Back Guarantee' which promises your fee back if you're not offered a booking with 48 hours, but I'd be amazed if this is not got around by offering an unsuitable or otherwise fake booking.)
I'm delighted to see that this page is the top hit on Google for this 'agency'. If more people linked to it, we could see it top for some of the others, like Network, Starnest, Platinum etc.

Posted by Richard on 10 Aug 06

I have wasted money with agencies. I want to be a legit, non-sexual male escort. Is this something that makes economic sense? Are there customers other than men?
I am still waiting for Cavendish Knights!!!
Should I advertise independently?
Thanks for any advice.
R

Posted by Rick on 12 Aug 06

Cavendish Knights
What do you mean by "economic sense"? It's extremely unlikely you'll ever 'make a living' or have a regular, reliable income this way, for example.
Despite what's on siguk.co.uk (their website), there is not a large market for this and I suspect you'll wait for a very, very long time.
If just one woman a day made a booking, they'd have to charge VAT and provide a VAT registration number, and they don't.
With 1,500 claimed escorts now, that translates as an average of less than one client every four years. My conclusion? Their primary source of income is hopeful wannabe escorts.
There is one non-sexual agency in London that doesn't charge its staff anything, but its advertising is patchy, so I wonder how successful they are.
The alternatives are having your own domain (about £3 a year) or using the various personals sites (posting no more than once a week, and making it discreetly clear that you expect payment). The basic question you have to answer is "why should someone pay me for a date?"

Posted by Richard on 14 Aug 06

Thanks Richard. Desperate times makes you forget common sense. Appreciate the sanity check.

Posted by Rick on 15 Aug 06

This week's mail
We had an interesting anonymous letter earlier this week, regarding an 'agency' listed on our sw5.info/cons.htm page.
If the author would like to get in touch, we'd appreciate it.

Posted by SW5 on 17 Aug 06

Network Escorts again
I have just read all the coments on network escorts and belive i have been scammed into paying for 2 months and had 1 confirmed booking of which was on the 16th aug 2006.
go to hotel read daily mail, lady in 30's dark hair name of trisha reading daily mail also (no show)
Very annoyed with agency as when phoned to ask what there policy was they hung up, rang back and they said their sytems were down (how convienent) ring back tomorrow and we will sort it out for you.

Posted by kevin on 17 Aug 06

ive just rang "starnest" and was about to give them my bank details,but my friend n i thought we"D do sum research first,thank -god i did!!!
anyone want to set up a website with me???
n are they actually any "escort agencies" that dont offer sex,strictly business???

Posted by katie on 25 Aug 06

Network Escorts - I have only just found this site ... a few days too late unfortunately.
Network Escorts have just done exactly the same to me ... I feel so stupid!
Have cancelled my standing order (after the first 47.50 was stolen) .. is there any point in involving the police or issuing a claim?
Something needs to be done!

Posted by Dom on 29 Aug 06

Starnest and Network, again again
//Starnest// - Yay for not giving them anything. If only everyone did some research before handing over the money...
Despite what some of them claim (those 'time and companionship' disclaimers) the vast majority of escort agencies are sex-based and 99% of their bookings will result in some sexual contact... so much so that 'business' is often used as a euphemism for 'sex'.
You could look at modelling, but again remember to avoid any agency that wants to charge you anything.
//Network// - argh, more money for the unscrupulous.
I wonder if anyone has sued them. The registry for County Court Judgements (registry-trust.org.uk) wants £8 to search for any judgements.
Proving that the 'bookings' used to justify taking the payments are known to be no good would be difficult without a whistle-blower, so I wouldn't hold out much hope of getting action from the police.
But even today, the Terms and Conditions on their website say that their charges are £37.50 a month. They've taken more than that. Did the standing order mention an amount?
Where did you find out about them? If through an ad, complain to the publisher.

Posted by Richard on 29 Aug 06

Hi Richard
I may have something over Network ...
I received a letter dated the 23rd August with an ID card enclosed. Letter stated "All you need to do now is call us on the number above ....Once we receive this call you will be placed on the active register. This means we will now make you available to our clients."
This is in addition to the note in bold at the bottom of my first letter from them stating " Please note that your standing order will not be actioned until such time as you start to receive bookings. i.e. you will not part with any monies until you start to receive work"
At lunch today I get a statement from my bank - 47.50 debited by Network on the 21st August.
Very curious. So I call this afternoon to "activate" my listing on their books ...initially I am told to call back between 9-12 tomorrow. The girl then hangs up. Not happy with her attitude I call back.
When I ask why my account was debited on the 21st when I am only calling today (29th) to put me on the active register she hung up, again.
Not a happy chap.
So I call back and am told that I have a booking for the 5th October at a hotel in Sutton (the client is a lady with dark hair called Emma and will be reading a Daily Mail - "activities to be decided on the night"!!!!) and that's why my account has been debited. When I question the obvious discrepancy over the dates she gets very stroppy and rude. I realise something is seriously wrong and ask for my account to be cancelled and my money back. She says they do not give refunds and hangs up.
I phone the bank to cancel the standing order and the original (instated on the 18th) was "expired" and reinstated by Network for the 1st September!
So not only did they steal 47.50 on the 21st they were attempting to do it again on the 1st September.
I have contacted the police as this is (in my humble opinion) deception at the least and quite possibly fraud.
Whilst the money isn't a huge amount I am fuming (with myself for being so naieve) and will press charges if the Pplice think they have enough to go on.
I found them on Google - which leads to question if they are a company that is acting "fraudulently" can we petition Google to have them "struck off"...

Posted by Dom on 29 Aug 06

i have worked as a high class escort in the past, i need to earn good money again but do not wish to start escorting again, i am interested in starting up an escort agency for both men and women. Has anyone got any good ideas about how and where to start?

Posted by candy on 29 Aug 06

Hi Guys.. I am glad I found this site, but unfortunately I found it a little too late, I received all the usual crap from Network Escorts. I/D Card shortage in my area etc, I was only doing it for a bit of company and the money of course cos I was skint, lucky I was really, because the bank bounced the Direct Debit for £ 47.50 ..Still cost me £ 34.50 in charges though. And the alledged aledged lady on the phone, was compeletly ill mannered. " She said WE have found you a confirmed booking and provisional ".. So I said " what if they get cancelled " because the booking were about two months apart. " Then we will arrange a replacement as a priority "... " Yeah right I said, by which time you have taken TWO payments out of my account.
Cheeky bitch said " The letter clearly states, WE WILL NOT TAKE ANY MONIES OUT OF YOUR ACCOUNT ..UNTIL we have made bookings for you..And we have MADE bookings for you "
Needless to say Direct Debit Cancelled, and will not be meeting the lady reading Dail Mail in reception lounge at 20.00 for 3 hours. CONFIRMED BOOKING..Guys its a COMPLETE SCAM, and a good one at that !!
Steve

Posted by Steve on 08 Sep 06

Network once more
They do love their Daily (Hate) Mail there, don't they?
You could consider showing this page, and the other sections on them on this site, to the bank and point out that it was a scam trying to take your money - and more money than they say in their terms and conditions.
(Incidentally, you can also challenge the level of the bank charges - they're only supposed to charge you the actual cost of your behaviour, see www.bankchargeshell.co.uk or www.bankcharges.info)

Posted by Richard on 08 Sep 06

Starting an agency
Well, it's good that you've had experience as an escort, because the basic question you have to be able to answer is "why should I work for you?"
In London, not counting the ones that have multiple names, there are at least a hundred agencies already - why should I or anyone else work for yours?
Are you going to find me more work (how?), better paid work (how?), keep me safer (how?) or...?
Once you have a good answer to that, and the financial resources to support the business through advertising etc in its start-up period, then you have a chance of success.
You also have to accept the risk of arrest - once you start making money by controlling someone else's prostitution - and that doesn't mean having sex slaves, just finding other people work counts - you're at risk of up to seven years in jail.

Posted by Richard on 08 Sep 06

Oh Boy! Thanx for this site. It seems you have just saved me a good few quid. Read a lot of what you had to say and I have just decided NOT to post off my details for Direct Debit to Network Escorts! The envelope is right here on my desk all set to be posted in the morning! ...Thank you so much... but I can't see the sites you do reccommend?

Posted by Micheal of Elephant & Castle on 09 Sep 06

just found this in time, nearly fooled by STARNEST, pay 270 to somewhere in spain, no way, they sound good on phone but after reading this i will not pay even 1p, this is a very convincing scam and i am looking into how to stop it, no one else seems to have been successful tho........

Posted by dan on 13 Sep 06

I agree with most people on this site, thank God 4 this site.
I have been looking round the net 4 ages on advice about these male escort agencies.
Cavendish knights, still 2 fill out the security check form, i wont bother.
Starnest, they asked for £270, i sed i,ll think about it, now i wont bother.
Network Escorts, i have applied on the net and waiting for form in post, but now i wont fill it in.
Platinum select, are waiting for my payment, but i wont send them one.
Now, reading through this site there is 1 agency that i havnt heard any complaints about, which i was about 2 hand over money 2day to the sum of £189-00 but now i think i,ll wait, they sed they had a booking for me without even seeing my picture. The agency is and site "www.guysforladies.com".
Another site i havnt heard complaints about is idealescorts.co.uk, i pay £9.95 a month and £20 admin fee for a searchable profile.
I would really appreciate any feedbak on these 2 agencys and i hope my info has helped people as well.
Many thanks for this site again and good luck 2 everyone trying this line of work.

Posted by Steve on 13 Sep 06

Cons
Steve, congratulations on not paying anything to that lot of pond life.
See www.sw5.info/cons.htm for more on those two - they're both just as bad. The section on Ideal is particularly good, showing the bits that they DON'T quote from the article they make so much fuss about.
And, if you haven't already seen it, see www.sw5.info/straightmen.htm

Posted by Richard on 14 Sep 06

Starnest
I'm sorry if this sounds cruel, but the fact that anyone can consider paying this bunch anything is proof of the comment, wrongly attributed to PT Barnum, that there's a sucker born every minute.
If there's a worse place to advertise than somewhere which gives no indication as to how a visitor can actually book one of the escorts it won't show you any details of, I'd like to see it.
I do notice that the 'login' now does indeed go to onlybyinvitation.com - another notorious scam site.

Posted by Richard on 14 Sep 06

thanks for the info richard.
Ive saved myself money and now my research as ended.
I will not bother with any of these lot.
I just hoped

Posted by steve on 14 Sep 06

hi all, i remember a while bk applying for Network Escorts, it was more for information realy as myself and a fried are setting up an Escort agency soon and were after knowing the ins and outs, lol it was a total waste of time as they ripped u off. this works better for us as for our agency we will not charge a joining fee there for people are not worred about being ripped off. if anyone would like information get in touch via e-mail. razor2099@msn.com. we are based in the merseyside area (north west) Paul

Posted by Paul on 28 Sep 06

was thinking of joining starnest but didnt have a credit card so was told to phone western union and pay £320 to Darren McGrath who i was told was a friend thankfully western union said for security reasons it wasnt possible to do this transaction to malaga spain now reading this i am glad i have saved money and embarassment

Posted by Ian on 28 Sep 06

Thank you, thank you! I am about to be made redundant and a colleague suggested the male escort thing, what a great idea. Take a lady out and get paid for it. Then I found your site. I hope many others find you before parting with their money. Keep up the good work.

Posted by Michael on 02 Oct 06

i joined platinum select, thank god a lot cheaper than some of the sites complained about on here. in the month i have been advertising for i have had one perspective client...and what a client....
he asked me question after question after question, all things answered on the profile, (the pathetic tiny space they call your profile!!) he wanted extra pics sent to him, dirty ones full body ones etc, he wanted it filmed etc, i said no way, well im not paying your fees for that, blah blah blah, then i said to him im sorry but basically i dont think u have any idea how to treat an escort, i think this must be your first time, and he turned round and said wait for it....
why dont u fuck off back to your dating agencies you fat piece of shit, obviously your not an escort but a silly little girl wanting to make some money.
well let me tell u, even though this twat was so far from the truth it was unreal, i still cried myself to sleep, hurt by the sort of people this agency allow to contact me. when i felt good enough to challenge the agency about this i was told like it or lump it basically. i asked to have my membership fee returned as all i had,was the one client who gave me abuse, in a month, and was told to basically fuck off,
also after more exploring the site i found that members had to pay 9.99 a week just to look at escorts, so the promise of 1000 extra part time a month was dwindling, you were allowed only somehting like 500 charatcers to write about yourself in your profile, and you cant speciafy the rates!! i was told AFTER i signed up that it was £50 per hour or nothing, i complained saying i charge( i advertsie privately as well) £80 an hour minimum, i wouldnt work for less, i was told by a very rude person, basically you only payed 9.99 it will hardly break the bank will it... stop moaning and get on with it.
well im off to cancel my membership now as i have found a good site to advertsie on and although still lookking for and agency (kent area if anyone interested) i will be content with the gentleman and ladies that contact me through there. thank god for site like this who put pay to all the scammers out there, if only more people could read it.

Posted by joanne on 03 Oct 06

This is a very informative site.
But what strikes me are the amount of men posting here exclaiming their appreciation for the site "saving them a small fortune" and then straight away asking "Which agencies are good then/ how do I get work etc etc etc?"
I wonder if these fine fellows appreciated being "saved" so much, then perhaps they'd donate to SW5.
I for one won't be asking for info until I've at least donated to the site.
Keep up the great work, SW5

Posted by Kiwibloke on 06 Oct 06

WELL, I AM CONSIDERING JONING STARNEST, LIKE SOMEONE SAID ABOVE THEY DO SOUND REALY GOOD ON THE PHONE, BUT DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY POSITIVES???

Posted by T on 08 Oct 06

I signed up with Network Escortsm got a booking over a month ahead etc etc I gave them a bank account I do not use or deposit money into happy that should it be a genuine service I can deposit enough to cover the Standing Order. My first booking is tonight, not confident but if I turn up and wait 30 minutes I can still make football training so nothing to lose.
Is there a decent agency? I scrub up ok and seem to be popular so am sure I could do well.

Posted by Malc on 09 Oct 06

The Usual Suspects
T: Of course Starnest sound good on the phone, they're after your money and will say anything in order to get their hands on it.
Just look at their website - what they want you to pay for. Can you book anyone through it? Could anyone book you? How? Can you find anyone saying they're a good thing, anywhere?
Malc: You risk ending up with bank charges. Do let us know if anyone shows up. Bet they don't...
There is one London agency I'm aware of that doesn't charge its straight men money. But if you can't find it, what chance do potential clients have?

Posted by Richard on 09 Oct 06

RegalEscorts.co.uk
Regal Escorts showed up while checking out the competition on Google. They pay there to have an ad which, as ever, costs them money if you click on it.
It makes a point of saying how it's free to have a profile, but pretty soon admits there's a monthly "admin fee" (and it looks like there used to be a "joining fee" of fifty quid too).
All together now, one, two, three: real agencies don't charge their escorts a penny!
The basic aim of the site - to extract money from gullible men - is shown by the way the first four of their five sample "successul escorts" are men, who are supposed to have had "loads of bookings" earning 150 quid an hour, and all of the "satisfied clients" are women. Get real.
Again, the 'Am I the right person to become an escort' question is answered by "The general age is between 18 and 65 years of age" and they're looking for "all types all types of men and women from all types of backgrounds, and from different parts of the country." Come on.
In fact the most honest bit on the site is the claim that "Looks and age are not important" - because it's your money they're after and they'll take anyone's.
The domain was registed in January 2006. Interestingly, the site is said to be "operated under licence from Touch Networks Limited". (The other such site is SingleMuslim.co.uk)
Touch Networks was registered as a company in June 2005 and has the same Wakefield address as the registrant of this domain, MB Trading House Limited, who was registered in June 2003... as a clothes retailer!
They presumably haven't been very successful at the rag trade (they've earnt so little, they haven't had to file company accounts) so are they trying their hand at less honourable ways of making money now?

Posted by Richard on 18 Oct 06

Thanks for the info guys. Rang Starnest this morning and they told me "we have one vacancy left in your area". Tried to charge me £270 and I told them I'd do some research first. Thanks to this site, my research is complete.

Posted by Ian on 23 Oct 06

Has anyone ever got refund from Starnest, if so how did they go about it?

Posted by Charlotte on 23 Oct 06

Thank you so much for this site. I am a lady who was thinking about becoming an escort and was about to part with £270 to Starnest. I have now stopped my card and hopefully - stopped payment. If there are agencies out there which are real and don't request payment 'up front' where the hell are they?

Posted by Rebel on 24 Oct 06

Just read all these comments about starnest and feel so stupid.I parted with £270 7 days ago and have had no bookings.When i phone them they tell me it can take up to five weeks to get a new escort bookings.Alarm bells started to ring as i realised i will probably never get one and they have taken my money.

Posted by Debbie on 24 Oct 06

Woo there is alot of bad news about these escort agencies...i was close to signing for rebeccas nationwide but im not going to now after reading its a scam,CAN anyone please give me a name of a male escorting company which has a good reputation!??

Posted by Matt on 25 Oct 06

Starnest mostly (again, again)
Ian: thank you for giving me a really good laugh -'one vacancy left', ho ho ho. I'm delighted you didn't give them an early Christmas present.
Charlotte - no-one's ever posted a success story here, alas. It looks like they're based in Spain which complicates things, and they also seem to avoid payment methods like credit cards which would enable you to get the money back from someone else.
Ah, just spotted that someone was asked for a card: if you paid by a credit (not debit) card, call your credit card company and ask for a 'chargeback' (refund). Point them here if necessary.
Rebel - there are loads of 'real' escort agencies, some better than others. Have a look at SW5's leaflet on working for an agency, look at www.saafe.co.uk and ask on the various "punting" message boards.
Despite what some of the agencies say in a feeble attempt to deny that they're controlling prostitution for gain, you know that the vast majority of bookings will be sexual, don't you?
Debbie - argh. If it's any comfort, you weren't the first and, sadly, you won't be the last. Where did you find out about them? Complain to wherever the ad was.
Matt - remember that nearly all of the people looking to hire a male escort are.. men. Several agencies exist in that market - where would you expect to find them? Look there.
If you're determined to try, there is one agency in London which doesn't charge its escorts anything. I've no idea how much work they get, but unlike the cons, the agency has a serious incentive: if they don't find their staff work, they don't get anything either.

Posted by Richard on 26 Oct 06

whooooooops just paid regal ecorts 29 pounds as to open my inbox and retreive my two messages i had to upgrade to goldmembership, i read and replied to both messages and nothing they havnt even been opened mi thinks ive been scammed. does anyone have info on a good site where you can advertise independantly its very hard to find on e in my experiance. ps ill let you know how i get on with regalescorts!!!

Posted by bianca on 29 Oct 06

Regal Escorts again
I was amazed to see 541 male escorts offered to anyone signing up to their 'book an escort' membership. I was amused that only forty two of them will see men. That leaves 499 very very optimistic men.
Twenty seven women seem to be members, only twenty three of whom will see men and just one who will see couples.
Is the star by some names the 'gold membership' I can't find any details of? Do they actually charge advertisers more to receive responses to their ad? £29? How does this match the FAQ promise that 'there are no other hidden charges'?
Don't forget that 'memberships' paid for by a card are renewable unless you give not less than 28 days' prior written notice to cancel.
See www.saafe.co.uk, particularly their 'where to advertise' page.

Posted by Richard on 30 Oct 06

wow... lots of stuff on here.
as far as a 'real job' comment goes... not all escorting requires sex, though i understand that i'm naive for believeing that. it is rape if consent was conditional and the conditions were violated by deception. a proper agency will not charge you (or me, if i decide to work this way) for putting your face out there because they should only make commission on work they get you.
any agency that attempts to control its escorts through debt or drug use is only inviting a violent response by those being controlled, or by their friends, and such a response is not only justified, it should be encouraged. hidden from the comparitively sunny world this site complains about there is a global trafficking in women and children to feed the sexual depravity and hunger for power of some of the most despicable people in the world. Interpol and other agencies attempt to quell this tide through the rule of law, and other religious and humanitarian agencies attempt to relieve the suffering of the innocent by buying their freedom as donations allow. I contend that both of these measures are ineffective. legal agencies are either confounded by the limitations of their own laws, or rife with corruption, while the seemingly noble concept of buying someone else's freedom only feeds more money into a system more disgusting than any sewer. The only possible answer I can see is to hunt down and kill the perpetrators as cheaply as possible, and use the cost savings from this to give the oppressed slaves some manner of fresh start either back where they came from or somewhere else.
ok, that's a bit of a rant. but the moral of the story is this... i don't mind stealing bread from the mouth of decadence... but i can't feed on the powerless when my cup's already overfilled...
don't remember what song that was from, but it sure was a good one.

Posted by Haven't read it all... but here's what i think on 31 Oct 06

Hi a freind of mine has just paid £270 membership to jion starnest she was also asked to send a fax saying that she is willing to let them take the money from her account even though hey have already taken out. Im i correctat guessing she has been conned by these people who advertised in the local paper.

Posted by master one on 01 Nov 06

Starnest once more
Yes, she's been conned. If she sent off the fax, make sure she cancels it with the bank immediately. If that means changing bank details, do it.
She should also complain to the local paper (which one?) about the ad - feel free to point them here for more details.

Posted by SW5 on 02 Nov 06

cheers mate

Posted by master one on 02 Nov 06

Haven't read it all, but..
'Not all escorting requires sex': Over 99% of clients of escorts expect sex. So, yes, but anyone hoping for a career as a non-sexual escort is being very optimistic.
Rape: Morally, I think you're right. Legally, with a couple of exceptions, consent is not conditional.
If you only want to have sex with a condom, for example, you need to check it's being used, so you can go 'stop!!' if it is not. (Sex workers are usually very good at checking, because they know some people lie to try to get the sex they want.)
Trafficking: While sex slavery is, sadly, a real problem, most 'migrant' sex workers know exactly what work they're going to do. You can earn more in London than in Latvia, for example.
The numbers are extremely difficult to measure. The figures for the UK are based on multiplying the known incidence by twenty. Too high or too low? No-one really knows, but six of those twenty are to 'account' for women coming to the UK to marry (!) and for people moving within the UK.
Whatever you call it, when migration is illegal, some not very nice people become involved and there can be an element of deception even in voluntary migration (e.g. the total cost can be higher than originally presented).
Plus if you are caught as an 'illegal' migrant, there is a strong incentive to say that you were trafficked - support can be conditional on co-operation. It also looks better when returning to the original country. In many places, if you are seen as having been a sex worker voluntarily, your family can reject you, even if everyone knew where the money you sent home came from before they spent it.

Posted by Richard on 02 Nov 06

I have joined up with Starnest 3 months ago and i have had 18 bookings already, looking at these messages,its outrageous. Just to let you all know it does depend on the clients, the clients select you it has nothing to do with starnest, they are lovely people and they have helped me loads. Obviously you are all as good people as half the other people who have, As i was say its the clients who pick you.

Posted by Teegan on 04 Nov 06

Starnest fights back
Shill off! *
It is indeed the clients who pick you, but how do people book someone unfortunate enough to have paid Starnest money?
Not through the incredibly awful website, that's for sure.
The ads I've seen concentrate on trying to get new escorts - everyone else has to guess that, if they call, they might (or might not) be offered someone.
Perhaps, like the scamsite OnlyByInvitation it's linked to, only other 'members' (i.e. fellow victims) can contact someone.
I suspect their mothers disowned them long ago, so the only people I can think of who would describe the bunch behind Starnest as 'lovely' would be their bank manager and the advertising departments of various places that should really know better. Or one of the gang themselves.
Which are you, I wonder?
(* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill - an associate of a person selling goods or services who pretends no association to the seller and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer.)

Posted by Richard on 06 Nov 06

Starnest still outrageous
Before you consider sending them any money, think: Google only knows of three relevant sites for 'starnest escorts' (the rest seem to be about space battles!). One's here and the second is a consumer site with a complaint about them:
"Names associated with them are Howard Dicosta / Jacqeline Webb from Multicorp.
Dozens of customers are being continually fucked by this company and when they ask for refunds they are given the run around. This company needs bringing to justice.
Advice from others would be most appreciated, as many of us are now joining forces with a view to taking this matter through the british court system. But how can they be stopped from trading and continually misleading their customers?"
It also gives an address: Multicorp sl Apdo De Correos, 193 San Pedro De Alcantara, Malaga 29670 Spain. I'd be interested to know who's there. Perhaps 'Teegan' - 'she' posted from Spain...
The third site is an old Escortwatch.org forum, where someone who wants to do non-sexual escorting asks if they're any good.. and gets told the truth.
Conclusion?
Starnest: so crap, it doesn't even appear on Google searches for 'starnest escorts'!
But we all know their domain address, so I had another look at starnest.biz in case something had changed, but no, it's still staggeringly bad.
Intro page summary: 'Starnest escorts are wonderful.' How do I book one? Dunno. Probably by becoming a member.
Membership page summary: 'Become an escort!' Nothing about booking one and they keep quiet about how much they want to charge.
Payment page summary: 'It'll cost you 300 GBP, possibly for 90 minutes, possibly for the "maximum" four hours, but an "overnight" is a minumum 1000 GBP.' Yes, I'm confused too.
Email: sets up an email to them.
Login: sends you to the same people's just as awful onlybyinvitation.com scam site.
I feel I now need to apologise... to my eyes for making them see that.

Posted by Richard on 06 Nov 06

I agree that Starnest are the biggest bunch of con-artists out there. I saw their ad and phoned out of interest - it sounded too good too be true. I currently work as an escort and honestly know what it is really about. Anyway this 'lady' called Katy kept on calling me once or twice a week - each time I put her off and told her that I was still thinking about it. About the 4th call I said that I didn't have my card on me but to get me a booking and that i'll call her on the monday. Surprise surprise lots of local men were interested in me. I asked how they would know about the agency when there were no adverts in the papers and she said that they were directly involved with companies and that some firms pay them direct for their employees - one for the tax man I think! Anyway, she said I was letting her down and that I had to part with the cash before going on a booking to ensure that 'I' would turn up- at this point I hung up! Really guys and girls don't your waste time. If they don't want to meet you they obviously don't give a stuff about what their 'clients' (if you think they acually have any) are getting so, they are not a good agency. A good agency will want a chat with you in person. They will also be quite honest about what is expected. And gentlemen, although it is a dream come true, there are very few ladies who would ever really need to pay for sex - there are plenty of nightclubs and out there or, if we are feeling economic, we'll join an agency ourselves ;).
Lucy x

Posted by Lucy on 07 Nov 06

Yet another bad experience of Starnest
Thanks. I love the bit about getting you to pay before they'd tell you more about all those bookings! (And, yes, I'd be amazed if they were genuine.)
What more proof that they're a bunch of con artists do people need?

Posted by Richard on 08 Nov 06

REFUND FROM STARNEST!!
Pleased to tell you all that I wrote to my credit card company and requested a refund as I didnt get services I was verbally promised by Starnest,also in letter explained I had been conned giving details etc, two weeks later my high street bank credit card gave me the refund in full. Please those of you also conned I hope you all get refunded too by asking for a credit card chargeback refund. Good Luck.

Posted by Charlotte on 09 Nov 06

Balls to Network Escorts
Why I didn't think to look for sites like this before I signed up I don't know.
I've been charged over 90 quid (2 months worth of standing orders) despite being told that I would not be charged until I start receiving bookings.
It all makes sense now thinking about it...
The Network guide for new Escorts no longer being in print; the unbeleivably rude woman on the phone; the system "being down" when I asked about bookings...
Balls to Network Escorts.
I'll cancel my standing order straight away.
Thanks for your help/warnings.
Does anyone know of a male escort agency that isn't balls?

Posted by Tom on 14 Nov 06

Agencies without balls
I can think of one which advertises as a 'non-sexual' male escort agency for the London area and doesn't charge its staff anything apart from a cut of the actual money they receive.
It doesn't advertise very well though, so you may have a little difficulty finding it (and while looking, you can also wonder how many clients can find it!)
An aside
A quick browse today found another suspicious agency which, on its link page, included a link to 'www.myangelboys.com'. A quick look reveals the owner of that didn't get much work...

Posted by Richard on 17 Nov 06

Rebecca`s Nationwide Refund Givenhaving had the same experience as everyone else on here,of crooked escort agenices,providing no work and taking the cash,i decided to do something about it!issue a county court judgement order,for breach of contract,it only costs £30,and you get that back,you can even do it online.the response was amazing!within 24 hours of it being sent,a cheque returned first class,for the full amount,with no need to go to court was able to cancel the summons.A miracle,numberous requests for a refund,were ignored,one from the courts PAYMENT!

Posted by steve on 20 Nov 06

hope you print message sent regarding taking male escort agenices to court,as it could get a lot of people their money back,i sent a message regarding the same subject a few months ago and noticed it wasn`t on your notice board.

Posted by Steve on 20 Nov 06

been a male escort now for just under a year, pleased to say ive had 109 dates. when i paid my fee along with some photos of myself i was introduced to two clients as a new escort now these were non sexual dates but i offered my services and they got lucky. i signed up on a monday and got a date on wednesday and friday the same week. almost a year on ive managed to save 38.000 pounds cash along with some nice prezziez from clients including watches, laptop, stereos, phones, tv, and loads of clothing. not to forget going abroad with clients five times in less than a year. one regular client even offered to by me civic type r cause i said thats a smart car.
SO....... there may be some scams out there but i took the risk to pay a few quid so why cant you. i know its a big risk but be smart about it ask loads of questions when talking to them thats how i knew they were no scam.
just to add, clients choose who they want to escort them, you dont choose them. so you better be a good looking lad. also forget it if your in your teens or low 20s and dreaming of big cash rewards you'l be wasting your money. these women are on average mid 30s and looking to do grown up stuff like to the horses, theatre, and grown up rounds of golf, not stuff you end up talking about with your mates on the course. im 25 but you look or talk to me you can put an age tag of up to 30 on me not cuz i look old cuz i know how to act like a grown up when needed.
if you want to know more send your comment and add my name Dane so i know its for me, also add your email. u can ask me anything you like on the subject and i will get back to you asap via email.

Posted by dane on 21 Nov 06

Starnest are a rip-off, i know cuz im an office girl there............ keep ur money, trust me

Posted by Bee on 22 Nov 06

Dane
OK Dane, if you found an agency that got you loads of work, great. Where are they? There are those of us out here that are "grown up" enough to not need to "act it" and would love to be in the same position of having saved 30k+. Look forward to hearing from you.

Posted by Phil on 22 Nov 06

Hi Dane ,
Im interested in what you have to say, who do you work with ?

Posted by Marmotte on 22 Nov 06

Deleting messages
Steve, we don't delete any messages from here unless a) they're wildly off-topic or b) break our (very simple) rules - 'no advertising' is the big one.
Because of the large volume of attempted 'comment spam'(*) we do leave most of the latter deletion to an automatic filter.
It's possible that your earlier post was accidentally deleted by that - if so, sorry, but you should get a little message in that case.
* - where someone or something leaves messages like 'Great site, see mine!' including links to lots of warez, drugz, gamez or similar sites in order to attract more visitors to their scams, both directly and via Google etc.
A quick look reveals there were 88 attempts to do this here in the past 24 hours, none of which succeeded.

Posted by SW5 on 22 Nov 06

The Great Dane
Hmmm, that works out at a fraction under £350 a time. And that's the savings, after you deduct expenses and before you throw in the freebies? And all from women?
Sorry mate, I don't believe you.
Sad but true: male escorts get paid substantially less than female ones. A quick look at some of the message boards shows that earning that sort of money is difficult even for drop-dead gorgeous goddesses.
The other thought is that this mythical agency is clearly so busy that it has no need to charge you anything except commission. That is the case, isn't it?
Is Dane the name you're known as in the business? Whereabouts are you, roughly?

Posted by Richard on 22 Nov 06

Straight male escorts - more evidence of the reality
A recent article (Sex Transm Infect 2006;82:359–363) is based on 823 men using the Working Men Project (a wonderful specialist clinic for male sex workers in London - see our links page for more details) over the past few years.
There's lots of interest in it, but the particular relevance to this section is the way that overall, when asked, 76% self-identified as gay, 18% as bisexual, and 5% as straight. (The proportion of the latter two increased over time, so there are indeed more 'straight' male escorts now than a decade ago.)
But 792 (96%) men reported male clients only, 11 (1%) both male and female clients, and just 3 (less than 1%) said they’d had only female clients.
So 24%, nearly a quarter, had a bi or straight sexual orientation, but only about 1.5% had any female clients.
As we have said before, the vast majority of clients for male escorts are men. Anyone telling you otherwise is probably trying to sell you something.

Posted by SW5 on 22 Nov 06

just found this site
does anyone know is guysforladies are any good?

Posted by dave on 22 Nov 06

Guys For Ladies
No, they're yet another scam site: see www.sw5.info/cons.htm#guys

Posted by Richard on 22 Nov 06

check out the math boffin, money earned is money spent. its like you think tax is paid on it. reality check, 100 pounds an hour for a standard 4 hour booking then you charge your extras. so yeah i should have double the money ive saved in cash.
i work for BMW as a vehicle technician 4 days a week earning 27k a year wich is hardly touched for the past year just my direct debits. from my earnings as an escort money has been spent and large sums 2,
b smart..... large sums of cash can be dagerous, first of all people are going to think where its all coming from, not the case with me cuz most people at work know. but what about the bank..... ahhh, you cant go and take a large sum of cash without being asked where you got it from, so some good advice i had 6k in my account and good credit but i still went to the bank and asked for a loan now lloyds offered me 25k, i took 15k over 5 years they asked me what it was for i said a nice new reliable car and explaind i only needed it for 6 months for work and the car would be sold and the loan would be paid off, now i went and got myself an m3 convertible for 18k, after 6 months i had saved 26k now i phoned the bank to ask how much i needed to pay off my loan and told them ill be in to pay it off. i took my hard earned cash to the bank paid off my laon ohh they did ask me where it came from, told them sold my car didnt expect cash, no futher questions asked.......but kept the car
and im full of shit yeah
befor i wrote this just had a read of some other comments, some people are full of shit but not me mate. for example the lad who said he had a no show.......... you still get paid for a no show, mate the agency has the the clients credit card number as procedure so a no show is reported and then deducted from thier card by the agency and they pay you............ hey but im full of shit.
can you truly turn round and say yeah i look the bollox cuz thats what women want................ top money gets top bollox......... hey but im full of shit so what do i know

Posted by dane on 22 Nov 06

richard
oh forgot to tell you freebies come from regular clients who want to see you more and more, i dont get paid by freebies mate.
the agency has a taxi firm account, you get picked up and when your dates over the client phones them to take you home only within a 50 mile radious. no fee. any further than 50 you make your own way.
whats to say your only going to do the standard 4 hours, abroad and over nite is where the money is. you set the price then.......... and the clients ive had in the past pay it too.

Posted by dane on 22 Nov 06

guysforladies aint no scam. 13 dates in 3 months. DANE top man you sound for real, will catch up wit u tho.

Posted by daniel on 22 Nov 06

From one 'Da' to another
'you sound for real, will catch up wit u'
Well, that shouldn't be too difficult to arrange.
Do you have any comment as to why 'Dane', 'Dave', and 'Daniel' all seem to be using the same PC?

Posted by SW5 on 22 Nov 06

Wow what a mug I am! I have just come across this site and its brought reality crashing down on me, and I thought I was quite switched on and no mug!
I signed up for "Elegance for Her" last February at a cost of just under £200 I have had no calls from any clients and no work! they are quite abrupt when I call and never return my calls when they say they will.
Believe it or not but I have fell for a similar scam now! but will be stopping my last check in the morning which was for £64.63p to Rebeccas Nationwide! They are mentioned on a few occasions here. I paid an initial fee off £35 which I will try to have returned but think I will probly just end up losing it.
Its shit exploiting hopefull people with the money back gaurantee if they dont get you work in 48hrs. But as a few people have mentioned they give you fake bookings! well heres one guy who aint going to be taken anymore, believe it or not Im a fireman and you would expect me to have more sense!
Cheers for your help

Posted by Jeff on 25 Nov 06

Firstly, hats off to the e-warriors, i.e SW5. They are a beacon of hope and an early warning system like NO OTHER!! Their research proves, don't believe everything you read. Just because it's enclosed in some flashy website doesn't make it so.
After having read your comments about Regal Escorts, I realise I've lost my £29! But I'm fighting back. Don't know how yet. I asked them about having to become a paying member in order to read my messages, even though their site was advertised as 'free'. The answer I got was a poorly spelled email detailing their inability to access messages and that membership was the only way in. Might not be illegal, but it IS immoral and unethical.
Well, just ripped up the envelope I was going to send Network Escorts! Thank you SW5, God bless you all who work there. You shall be richly rewarded :)

Posted by Sal on 25 Nov 06

Rebecca's Nationwide
Hi
Does Steve or anybody else have a full postal address for Rebecca's Nationwide so that I can initiate a small claims case against them? I only have a PO Box address. Is this sufficient?
Thanks
Tony

Posted by Tony on 27 Nov 06

Rebecca's address
The 'real' address associated with PO Boxes is not a secret, except in very limited cases of "sensitive boxes" (the examples given are a women’s refuge centre, a rape crisis centre or member of the security forces!)
So just ring the Royal Mail - you may need the office in the particular town - and ask for it.
It's possible they'll ask why you want it. Saying "to sue the bastards" always worked for me :)
Once you've got it, you could always post it here.
Oh, and you're not supposed to use PO Boxes for a 'fradulent purpose'. I wonder what the Royal Mail would do if sent copies of the court cases claiming, successfully, that they're doing just that.

Posted by Richard on 28 Nov 06

I did some digging around on Regal Escorts, impersonated a client and asked people if they had been scammed by the bogus message to entice you into paying - many said yes. Then they cancelled my bogus client account.
Better than that, they took off the option to sign in as a client on the website so you CANT BOOK ANYONE - ha ha!
check it out!
Surely this breaches their obligations?

Posted by marmotte on 28 Nov 06

Regal Escorts again
Hmmm, I can still log in with my 'client' account.
Having done so, I am utterly appalled to see that there are now 1,300 men signed up there, of whom only 104 of whom will see male clients. That's over 800 more than a month ago.
For fuck's sake, what are they on? Is there no limit to male optimism?
It reminds me of the journalist who obtained access to the records of a 'penis enlargement pills' spammer or the report that '419' scammers ('I have access to millions of dollars, and I will let you have some of it if you send me some money first, love from someone claiming to be a banker / from dead African dictator's family / lottery agent') con Britons to the tune of millions every year.
In both cases, amazingly there are men stupid enough to send money in response to such spam.
Clearly, I am in the wrong business: extracting money from gullible straight men pays rather better than having sex with people for money...
... hang on, the former would mean losing all my morals and I'd rather be an honest whore than scam site scum.

Posted by Richard on 28 Nov 06

OK IM VERY NEW TO ESCORT SITES AND I MUST SAY FROM SOME OF THESE COMMENTS IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE ALOT OF BOGUS AGENCIES OUT THERE.I WENT WITH MY HEART AND PROBABLY DIDNT USE MY HEAD AND REGAL SEEMED DECENT ENOUGH BUT NOW IM NOT SO SURE THOUGH IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY WERE TO PROVE ME WRONG.I DID PAY SOME SORT OF FEE OFF OF MY CARD,WHETHER I RECEIVE THIS FEE BACK OR ANY OTHER FEE FOR THAT MATTER IS ANOTHER THING.WITHOUT STATING THE OBVIOUS DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADVICE THAT MAY BE OF SOME USE TO ME?ROBERT

Posted by ROBERT on 28 Nov 06

Regal have now put back on the 'book an escort' option with some blurb about vetting new clients, I think i kicked up some aggro by messaging all the would be escorts asking them if they had bogus contacts.
Im pursuing the matter with my credit card provider. I never thought the think more than a bit of fun, im hacked off they are nothing more than fraudsters.
If you are annoyed, why not create some dummy client profiles and kick up some hassle for them?

Posted by Marmotte on 29 Nov 06

Regal Robert
Yes, there are a lot of bogus agencies out there: no real agency will charge its staff anything to be listed.
If Regal won't let you have the money back, get the card company to refund you.
See www.sw5.info/straightmen.htm and, if you haven't already done so, the rest of this page.

Posted by Richard on 29 Nov 06

Another scam site appear to be on the go. Advertising as Suffolk Escorts but covering company want escorts to pay by standing order but no escorts listed on site. I spoke to a lass I know and she says that they have spammed Adultwork advertisers telling them how much they could earn with Suffolk Escorts! Looks like another one to avoid.

Posted by Bryan on 29 Nov 06

Rebecca`s Nationwide Full Address is J C Albyn Complex,Burton Road,Sheffield South Yorkshire S3 8TL. although you don`t need it,you can use the PO Box,i did,to start the proceedings.All the best.Steve

Posted by steve on 01 Dec 06

Small claims Court Website Address is www.moneyclaim.gov.uk it`s so easy,go for it,sue `em!

Posted by steve on 01 Dec 06

Suffolk Escorts - scam!
Also known as sexyukcontacts.com, this bunch does indeed look fit to join the 'beware' list.
Some of their text is remarkably similar to that of other such sites, and they've stolen huge chunks from Network Escorts in particular. What's the phrase? Ah yes, there's no honour amongst thieves...

Posted by Richard on 01 Dec 06

Does Anyone have the new n.o and address for only by invitation as Ive been stung twice by them,over £500,I feel such a fool,I wish Id known and I never got any work
John

Posted by John on 02 Dec 06

Im thinking of sending £270 to register with an escort agency. They ask for money to be made payable to Multicorp. Anyone heard of this company? Are they reputable. They have been advertising in the Grimsby Target in the last few weeks.

Posted by jason on 07 Dec 06

network escorts again
just had letter and standing order form from network but after reading the comments on here its all going in the bin thanks for the warnings everyone

Posted by mike on 12 Dec 06

I wonder if it is worth reporting these scam agencies to the local Trading Standards as they should be in a position to close them down and maybe prosecute the owners. Anyone else got any thoughts about this.

Posted by Bryan on 12 Dec 06

1, 2, 3
Jason - no agency worth working for will charge you a penny just for registering. Multicorp are Starnest - see above for how crap they are and let the newspaper know about this site.
Mike - yay!
Bryan - yes, it's a good idea. I don't think some of the scams are actually illegal (some promise so little that they can claim to be doing what they say, even if that won't get you any work) but the more people know about them, the better. Similarly, if newspapers and magazines stopped accepting their ads, they'd find it much harder to get new victims.

Posted by Richard on 12 Dec 06

Another bad story about Starnest I’m afraid. (holds hand up)
Apparently Northants is a very busy area this time of year! And to show they were serious they reduced their costs from £420 to £320 – how very considerate. That’s still £320 + a fortnight of my time too much!
I’m a guy with a lot of fight in him though and I’ve got a few tricks of my own to sort them out. So watch this space.
I’ve also noticed that Starnest appear to be having a slight identity crisis. They now seem to prefer the name Brookes and Morris International. www.brookes-morris-internation.com.
It’s another shite website with no way of potential clients viewing the escorts available. I’ve checked with company house and neither starnest or brookes morris are registered in either the UK or Spain. So tracing them is going to be very hard. I’ve tried to start a paper trail by getting them to send a receipt of my payment but I’m not going to hold my breath.
My bank can’t do anything because it wasn’t a credit card transaction. All appears to be lost at the moment. Trying to get anything out of them is impossible – and it doesn’t help that the dappy cocknies I keep coming across can’t speak English either (that’s not a Stereotype by the way).
Anyway I work in the print media so I’ve contacted as many publications as possible to warn them about these companies.
Anyone else got any ideas how to progress?

Posted by Peter on 13 Dec 06

Brookes Morris International
Yep, even the gallery takes you to OnlyByInvitation, their other scam site!
The domain is registered to
Multiar
Ave Migas
#33 Second floor Apt A
Fuengirola, 29640
Spain
I do have an idea involving fighting them where they find their victims, so come back soon.
Yes! Do tell everywhere you find their ads about a) what scum they are and b) here, so they can see the stories.

Posted by Richard on 14 Dec 06

Ok, so i've searched and searched and listened to all the good comments about the bad agencies, but nobody seems to be reccomending any good ones, where you do not need to pay for either registration or a monthly fee!
Can anyone reccomend a good agency in London to get me started?

Posted by David on 17 Dec 06

Good agency
It depends what you are looking for.
If you want to escort women you are being extremely optimistic (see the 'more evidence of the reality' post above, for example) but there is one agency attempting to do it without scamming the staff.
If you cannot find an agency looking for intelligent, articulate and attractive staff and not wanting to charge them, how are clients to manage? (Though I see they've started to spend more on Google Adwords - even the most basic search found them just now.)
If you're ok about being sexual with men, then you have a much wider choice, but most guys choose to advertise in one or more of four main places rather than work for an agency.

Posted by Richard on 18 Dec 06

Thanks Richard, and unfortunatly i sit in the "escort women only" camp, so as you say, i am probably being unrealistic.
I still find it difficult to fathom that i cant find one (i've searched links/web-sites/papers etc!!) company that is interested in fresh escorts for their clients.
I guess unfortunatly supply must outstrip (excuse the pun!!) demand in this case, and unless you are in that kind of circle, or reccomended by someone else, its kind of a closed door!

Posted by David on 19 Dec 06

Good agency 2
No-one can make money that way.
If you're going to take the legal risk of running an agency (aka 'controlling prostitution for gain', max penalty of seven years), the financial risk of advertising, and put in the time and effort to deal with staff, some of whom you will regret taking on, then you do the sensible thing and have female escorts.
Or, if you want to be different, trans ones.
Or, if you're really determined to have male staff, you want gay / bisexual men... because the overwhelming majority of your callers are going to be men.
When you consider that for all their advertising, for all being #1 or #2 on Google searches, for all their website's spin, Cavendish Knights aka SIG UK get less than one woman booking someone a day... you realise what a non-scam agency would have to do.
Then look at some of the scam sites, promising you the dream (ok, lying to you!) and charging you. For example, Regal's now stopped you seeing easily how many they've conned, but even when it was 'just' 1,200 in a couple of months, that's much, much more money from scamming straight men than the scum could ever have hoped to make from women.
There are some women who pay for what they want - I have some female clients - but it's not easy finding them, and I'm a bit ashamed to say that I'm not about to reveal my secret niche marketing strategy here. Sorry...

Posted by Richard on 20 Dec 06

Dear all,
I just wish I'd come across this site months ago before I started contacting agencies and parting with my money. Thank you all for your comments and it's a real relief knowing that such a useful site exists. My main gripe is with the infamous STARNEST. I signed up with them in the summer and have been contacting them for months now asking about work. I'm told constantly that there are lots of interest in my profile but six months and two 'upgrades' later I still haven't had any work. Finally, this week I lost my temper with one of their office stafff who told me that 'I have no one to blame but yourself' for believing what I was told on the phone and for not investigating the company thoroughly before parting with any cash. Not very reassuring, is it. John

Posted by Johnnie Boy on 21 Dec 06

sounds good

Posted by vertigo on 21 Dec 06

Hi Dane,
can you get back to me and tell which agency you escort for. Thanks

Posted by Tony on 26 Dec 06

Not so great Dane
As 'Dane', 'Dave', and 'Daniel' were the same person, it's highly likely he was shilling for guysforladies.
If he was making those sums, it was as the owner of the site, extracting cash from gullible men, not as a 'member'.
That's because they're not an agency, they're expensive waste of space: no-one will get the business he claimed advertising there.
Test one: do they charge their 'staff' anything?
Test two: are their ads aimed at finding them clients.. or at getting more victims?
As with the rest of the scams, Guys For Ladies fail both those.

Posted by Richard on 30 Dec 06

Thank you guys, you've just saved me £28, and those gets at Regal from getting another £28!
Many thanks indeed :-)

Posted by Al on 03 Jan 07

JASON! Don't part with your £270! I also got stung and paid £300 (fee for "wealthy clients" Ha!) to Multicorp in June 2005. Obviously got no work & when the year was up was told 'there were a lot of american clients interested in me' but i needed to pay another fee of £500! They were then advertising under the name of Only By Invitation and are now advertising as Brookes Morris International with a fee of £270. They advertise almost every week in the Hull Daily Mail and also in the Holderness Advertiser. They also advertise alongside the escort one for Men & Women to take part in "Adult Movies" Mmm! Not had the guts to enquire how much the fee is for the privilege of that one!!

Posted by Lisa on 05 Jan 07

Back again just to see if there's been any developments. I've not rung starnest for a few weeks now, might give them a go later on and see what they say...
..they're not very good at giving me an address to contact them by. I'll keep trying hoping one of the twats slips up and says too much.
Believe me if I do get an address (for their telephone base) I'm on the next train (probably in London). I'm going to take great pleasure twating the first bloke/gal I come across

Posted by Peter on 05 Jan 07

Starnest, Multicorp, Only By Invitation and Brookes Morris International
Even if there are British people behind the scam, I think they're based in Spain. Various people have reported sending money to the scammers there.
The cost of having an 0870 number being answered in Spain is minimal, the domains are registered to addresses in Spain, and the 'Starnest are wonderful, honest' post here was from an IP address in Spain.

Posted by Richard on 07 Jan 07

Well for crying out loud, I have sent off the standing order form for Network just the day before yesterday, the bank cant cancel the standing order yet because it has not appeared in my account. I just signed up becasue i need some cash, and i thought (naively) that there was such a thing as sex free escorting, am i completely wrong? And does anybody know how i can block that £47 payment coming out of my account before they take the first payment?

Posted by Anthony on 10 Jan 07

I totally agree with what's been said about Network Escorts.
I got "sucked in" like many others, and although I have lost some money, at least I can easily recoup it, and I've cancelled the standing order.
I'm not going to bother trying to get the lost money back.
I must admit that I was a little suspicious about Network, and these suspicions have been reinforced by this forum.
However, I was "naive", having no previous experience/knowledge of this industry.
I think Network will eventually cease trading in its current form, but may (unfortunately) reinvent itself.

Posted by John on 10 Jan 07

'Notwork Escorts', yet again
Anthony - I'm very surprised that the bank won't accept a 'cancel this standing order instruction' until they've received it. Make it very clear to them, in writing, that they are not to pay any money on it. Unlike stopping a cheque, there should be no charge. If they mess you around, change banks.
I'm afraid you are being naive: the vast bulk of any escort's bookings involve sex.
John: I'd like to think they'll die off, but it looks like there is a never-ending stream of optimistic men.
There is at least one site where it's free to advertise, but there's competition - they currently have 3,729 straight men looking to escort women, plus another two thousand bisexual men also willing to see women. That's before you consider the inumerable swinger sites where more thousands of men are offering themselves for free...

Posted by Richard on 11 Jan 07

You guys are delusional if you think you can earn money from escorting women.
Women don't pay for it like men do .. simple fact !

Posted by Dan on 12 Jan 07

Hi - reading these messages has been very enlightening - I was interested in the possibility of becoming a non-sexual male escort for women. But now realise this was rather naive!
Given the above posts regarding the paucity of straight escort work I thought it may be helpful to post the name of another "agency" I recently found via Google and which doesn't appear to have been mentioned on this forum thus far. Their .com web address is charming escort. It is rather more professionally designed than most similar sites I have seen, but I suspect (knowing what I now know about the very small numbers of women prepared to pay for a male escort) that this may well not be what it purports to be. This site appears to be targetting people like me - i.e. naieve (until discovering SW5), straight, middle-aged, middle-class men, who are easily taken in by a well written and apparently convincing website.
Does anyone else has a view about, or past experience of, 'Charming Excorts'?

Posted by Stephen on 15 Jan 07

Further to my above post... having just read the "escort etiquette" section of the 'Charmingescort' website I now take back what I said about it being well written!

Posted by Stephen on 15 Jan 07

John Don't know if you managed to get a number for OBI but i was also sucked in by them - as posted above. They now use the name Brookes Morris International but reckon they've never heard of OBI! They use the same style advert and still advertise in Hull Daily Mail & Holderness Advertiser. Tel No. 08719 903475 or 08719 903476. Good Luck mate and don't 4get to post how you got on!

Posted by Lisa on 15 Jan 07

What a load of ......... cant believe these people get away with scamming us out of large amounts of money .Has anyone tried contacting Trading Standards ?Or are these people even out of there league.
Myself and a friend have been conned too !by the so called "BROOKES-MORRIS-INTERNATIONAL"
Alarm bells went off when she got charged £270 and myself £320 for the so called same joining fee .They also requsted me to send a fax authorising the payment out of my account .Which thank goodness I didnt.They were definately keen to get the money even reqesting that i transfer money out of another account because i didnt have all the funds they needed at the time.I consider myself to be quite aware of things like this what an idiot I feel as im sure so many other people do too .
What worries me with these fraudster type people is that they now have all my personal information !! whats to stop them using it to obtain fraudalant credit?
The advert was in the Lincolnshire Echo ,looking at the other postings on here they seem to be doing the rounds .So first thing in the morning I will be letting the paper know no exactly what the ad is for if only in the hope that it stops anyone else from getting scammed .

Posted by jaynee on 17 Jan 07

Arghhhhhhh, I recently applied to join rebeccas nationwide escort agency and have paid out the monies that they asked for. I feel like such an idiot now having looked at everybodys comments, although the agency isn't mentioned as much as the other ones. Am i being gullable or do you guys and girls think I will get work. All i can say is what an idiot I am

Posted by russ on 21 Jan 07

'Rebecca's'
Alas, I think the smaller number of comments about them is down to the way they're not as good either at advertising or at conning people into handing over their money as some of the others.
(Not really surprising - when I looked at it just now, some of images didn't display, the 'contact us' page is aimed at men wanting to join rather than clients looking to hire someone, and one important link still points to a file on the PC of a 'Gavin Marsden'.)
Chance of getting work: nil, I reckon. Sorry.
Having said that, their real address is up above here, along with a success story in getting money back...

Posted by Richard on 22 Jan 07

anyone heard of brookes morris international?
I paid up front last week and have just realised that it is likely to be a scam.

Posted by Jamie on 22 Jan 07

Brookes Morris International
Yep, BMI is the latest name for the scammers in Spain who also operate as Starnest and Only By Invitation.
They probably also own non-escort sites like pets4films.com and internationalfilmextras.com - all are cons.
I'd like to think it was publicity here which lead to the change of name.
Doubtless they'll be along with another one when word on this one gets around so a quick reminder: any 'agency' asking for money up front is a scam.
(I'll also call them 'Brooks Morris International', just in case anyone searches for the misspelling.)

Posted by Richard on 22 Jan 07

Hi been reading all your comments and WOW i never thought people could be so cruel ..then again you never do till its yu there being cruel to!! was just wondering if anyone had any dealings with "yours very exclusively"??? just spent £75 on joining fee's...and was told my partner would have his first booking this weekend gone.. nope..nada..nothing plus i used my card to join him on regal escorts(big mistake!!) AND platinumselect(crying at this point!!)so have now e-mailed the B!"£$%d's and said i want my monies back as it was used without me knowing and he has been dealt with(good spanking should do it!) do you think that will work?? as well as saying i've had legal advice about taking it to court if my money is not returned...(umm anyone know a good barrister hehehe..hummm:'(
keep up the good work you guys do on here SW5 thank god for your site !!!!!!!
kiss's n hugs
vicky

Posted by vicky on 23 Jan 07

Yours Very Exclusively?
Well, that stupid effect on their website makes me want to take whoever designed it out and shoot them.
If you ignore that effect, and I wish I could, it looks vaguely plausible: it appears to be aimed more at finding clients for escorts rather than finding new victims, for example. The photography is patchy - clearly some of them are snapshots people have sent in - which is an indication of how much effort they're putting in.
Looking elsewhere, Google doesn't know much about them, interestingly. Where did you find out about them?
There's someone who says their name is Melanie or Sam saying 'join us' a lot on an adult employment website. Whatever their name is, they're not fussy about where the person is: Belfast or Bristol, "we have a lot of calls from there and not many escorts", or what the person actually wants to do, which is not a good sign.
As part of that pitch, they claim there that there's no joining fee (good - real agencies make their money from finding their staff work, remember) but also say that there's no commission and someone is promised they'll be featured on their website for free.
So how do they want to make their money?? Real agencies do charge a commission and ad sites charge for the ad... and this lot say they do neither.
There's a form to make a booking on their site. Although five male escorts are featured on the site, only two names are in the drop-down menu to select someone. Is your partner one of them?
It all makes me think there's something very fishy somewhere, especially as you say you've have in fact been charged a 'registration fee'.
Usual advice applies - if it is a credit card, ask the company for a chargeback and straight men looking to escort women are very, very optimistic.

Posted by Richard on 24 Jan 07

Yours Not Very Exclusively?
A bit more digging reveals that their domain was registered in October last year, to 'South West Telesales'. A company of that name was formed in June 2005, with a registered address of 2 Hengrove Farm, Hengrove, Bristol BS14 9DD. They've yet to file any accounts.
The contact details for the domain are 'Pauline Ferron', using the same email address as 'Melanie' and 'Sam' above, this time at 43 Church Road, Lawrence Hill, Bristol BS5 9JJ. Phone number is 01179 550768, which would be cheaper to call than the 0871 number on the website...
The SWT bit in Pauline/Melanie/Sam's email address suggests that the two are indeed linked.

Posted by Richard on 24 Jan 07

Not very 'Charming Excorts'
Yep, it's a scam. The giveaways:
a) They say they're an agency, yet want to charge you at least £165 for an ad which they'll charge
at least £10 for anyone to see
b) "We are currently recruiting escorts in all areas at present due to high demand", an outright lie
c) Almost exactly the same 'you gave us the money, tough, "For the avoidance of doubt we make no representation, promise, warranty or guarantee that you will receive work from the Website or that any Client will view your profile/personal details" terms and conditions as other scam sites such as Elegance 4 Her.
I hope that, again, the reason they've not been mentioned much is that they've not attracted many victims. Speaking of which, yay for not giving them any money.

Posted by Richard on 25 Jan 07

B.M.I./Starnest/Only By Invitation...the same fraudsters for certain!!!
I joined Brookes Morris International for a £270 12 month fee. The membership number and password Iwas given at BMI also (strangely enough) works on Starnest's site and also Only By Invitation's site. This is strange as I have not paid membership to the other two companies, so why am I a member?
If these companies are unrelated as BMI claim, why does the password and membership number that they gave me, work on all 3 sites. Because they are scamming bastards...that's why.
Be Warned.

Posted by Jamie on 02 Feb 07

I recently joined the Network Escort Service but seeing all these negative comments about them, I think I quit before I lose my money. Whenever you contact them via phone, it's always a very rude female that answers or a voice recording which is practically always on even in their working hours. It states that you will be charged £47.50 when you get ur first booking and again that booking is one month away and they already took not £47.50, but £95 out of my account today but I normally check my account everyday and as soon as I saw that, I called my bank and they recalled my £95 and they also stopped the £47.50 Standing Order Payment to them. My whole point is everyone can't be wrong so I'm taking the advice of everyone on here. Thanx everyone.....u saved me a fortune, I wish I had seen this earlier.

Posted by Kareem on 02 Feb 07

Scamming bastards
Jamie, am I right in saying that when you enter your number/password details, the only person's details you can see are your own?
Or can you see those of all their other victims?

Posted by Richard on 05 Feb 07

I too have just joined Brooks Morris International, I found their details in the LOOT newpaper and paid them my registration fee of £450 with the promise that I could be earning £600-£800 per booking within days. To be honest I thought it sounded too good to be true, it's only been a couple of weeks, but i'm not holding out much hope. - Will try and get a refund with my credit card company asap.

Posted by Maria on 10 Feb 07

Rebecca's Nationwide: Successfully Sued
Like many, I too was scammed by Rebecca's paying £76 for no work. I went down the small claims route. Its all done online and takes minutes: www.moneyclaim.gov.uk. You have to pay £30 but that's added to your claim.
Rebecca's acknowledged my claim thus giving them 28 days to file a defence. They didn't. I then applied for judgement which was issued.
A couple of weeks later I then received a cheque in the post for £106 from a Mr Chadwick wishing me "every success in any future ventures".
Because I haven't bothered to tell Moneyclaim that I received this cheque Rebecca's now have a CCJ which they have to go through the hassle of trying to remove and takes a month.
I hope this helps all those out there who have been scammed. Its only by going to law that I think these scammers will eventually be forced out of business.

Posted by Tony on 14 Feb 07

SOL MATES
Just been in contact with them, seemed nice enough. Then I started to ask questions about the company in general and I was challenged. Asked for some pictures of the villa and even that was challenged. Got the pictue and it's hardly a 800 sqaure foot villa!! If anyone has gone through the payment etc please post it on here.
Thanks

Posted by Ollie on 14 Feb 07

my mum who is in her 50's paid £270 to register with brookes-morris-international they were advertising in the GRIMSBY TELEGRAPH, i tried tellin her when she asked me to lend her the money that it was a scam, but she was totally sucked in by it and persuaded her friend to pay the fee with her cc and then fax authorisation to them. i have been reading thru the msgs here and been on the phone to my mum to tell her what i found, she is naturally very embarrassed now. these scam companies prey on people who,like my mum, are skint and looking to earn the vast amounts of money BMI are promising....

Posted by cat on 16 Feb 07

SOL MATES
Thought I'd just post this e-mail I recently recieved from sol mates, see what you think :

If you cannot see the need for our caution then you would not have fitted in with our organisation.
We have absolutely no idea who you are. If you are genuine you would not want our lack of security to be the cause of you getting your picture in the News of the World, and our lady clients definitely would not.
Our business survives on our guarantee of confidentiality.

Best regards,

Alan.
Thought this was pretty funny as they have a notarised passport copy. And The News Of The World???!! Who are we escorting Paris Hilton???!!

Posted by Ollie on 17 Feb 07

The Usual Suspects
Tony - hooray! I take it the cheque didn't bounce :)
Cat - this is an example of why these people are so evil. Try to get her friend to get a refund from her credit card company.
Ollie - I'm sure SW5 would be quite interested to see the picture. Who knows, someone may recognise the place.

Posted by Richard on 20 Feb 07

I am happy this site is prepared to show the scamming s***s for what they are but surely most of the people talking here do actually want to become escorts ........for the love of god is there any agencies that don't scam????? Please advise!!

Posted by AJ on 23 Feb 07

Non-scamming agencies
Oh, there are plenty.
The problem is, if you're a straight man, that the overwhelming majority of clients for escorts - male, female, transgender - are men.
So that's the market the real agencies go for, whether they have female escorts (most), male escorts (some) or trans escorts (a few).
Not all of the agencies will be nice, but they tend not to be outright scams, because it is actually possible to make money by finding male clients for escorts.
(The exceptions are usually trying to scam men too, like Platinum Select, or are obvious clones, like femalerecruitment.com, owned by the same scammer as malerecruitment.com)
If you're male and want female clients, you need to a) realise you're being very optimistic and b) work independently.
The main UK adult work website is free to advertise on (they make their money by getting a percentage of sales of porn etc, plus various features you don't actually need).
The bad news is that there are already about 3,700 straight men there already, some of whom use it as a dating site (i.e. they're prepared to meet women without charging them anything...)
You can have your own website for a couple of quid a year, but again, there are others out there and how are clients going to find you?
If you're male and you want male clients, then a quick look will find a variety of places to advertise, including several popular websites and the gay press.

Posted by Richard on 23 Feb 07

Applied to Network last month, foolishly sent off s.o mandate. Knew they were dodgy after a bit more research on the site i.e differing addresses, diff numbers going to same answer phone msg. Never answered. Then came across this by accident (what a blessing that was!) and immeditely contacted my bank to cancel s.o before they start leeching my money. Naivety almost got the better of me!
Its unbelievable how we can all get a blinkered view at some stage when desperate. Thought this would be the ideal way to make good money, having fun and have more free time to concentrate on pursuing other ventures that 9-5 dosn't allow.
Oh well! Its absolutely true Women do not need to pay for sex its a basic fact.Ladies, There will always be a willing desperate guy somewhere to be found in a nightclub or dating site even if you are what is technically known as a fat munter. Its just the way the world is.

Posted by martinoski on 01 Mar 07

.. and still they come
The latest bunch of scammers using Google adwords: moonlitescorts.co.uk
Moonlite (sic) want about a tenner a month, plus joining fee. They won't even tell you what their terms and conditions are.
I don't know whther to be amused or outraged that the software they're using for their website refers to everyone as a 'product'.
Conclusion: avoid!

Posted by Richard on 12 Mar 07

... and come, and...
With a domain registered last month, Agent Escorts are using Google AdWords to say "New Male Escorts Needed / Free to join ladies waiting! sign up now no interview".
They have a special offer at the moment: "If you join with us before the 1st may 2007 you will only have to pay £39.99 a month for life...."
Gasp! How can I resist paying them forty quid a month for life?
Should they survive that long, they're threatening to increase the fee to £69.99 a month.
Like some of the others named and shamed here, they've ripped off another scam, Network Escorts, for virtually all of their text (including their claim to have 300-500 victims already!) and no doubt their dubious business plan too.
They have managed to introduce a number of amusing spelling and grammatical errors in the process, but remember that it costs them money when you click on their ad to see.

Posted by Richard on 19 Mar 07

hey this is a great site..and thanks for the advise..ive was very close to signing up with such an 'advertising site' and youve opened my eyes......by the way do you have any info on genuine agencies..cheers....will contirbute to this site for the welfare of all escorts and would be escorts if i have any worthwhile information....

Posted by STEPHEN on 25 Mar 07

Agent, outed
The owner's details are visible on the whois for agentescorts.co.uk, so if you've been ripped off by them, the person to sue is 'Anthony' at 90 Wilberforce Road, Finsbury Park, London N4 2SR.
Doubtless a look at the electoral register would get his full name.

Posted by Richard on 27 Mar 07

Genuine agencies, again
The one non-scam 'straight male' agency I'm aware of now has something on its website to say "Please note that due to high levels of applicants, (it) is no longer recruiting".
If you look above, you'll see some comments, but the short version is that you either need to be sexual with men or work independently (and even then, be prepared to have very few clients!)

Posted by Richard on 27 Mar 07

Glad i found this site guys.Network escorts total con!! got the bullshit letters and went the holiday inn to meet amber who was meant to be reading the daily mail - yes that again.
Surprise surprise no show.
Rang network the following day and they apologised and sounded quite genuine.
bollocks dont go near them.
Platinum select, escort knights, rebeccas and regal.dodgy as delboy trotter!!

Posted by KEV on 03 Apr 07

*websites for independent escorts*
Hi,
I was once with Ideal Escorts paying £9.99 a month (its increased since!) and did not get any work (obviously!) and looking through it the other day after a long absence cannot believe how some of those guys think they are going to get work! However I am thinking of having a go getting into being a straight male escort *independently* because the thing is I can design websites and know how to market them, so I am going to do one for myself and see how it goes. Now my thinking here is after reading numerous post here about you guys getting ripped off (myself included!)I was thinking I can design a website/page for a one off fee, with your feedback how you want it to look ect, not these profiles that all look the same like on those agencies,and eventually they could all be linked together creating a *network* of independent escorts not, being ripped off by a agency, in short you are in control to market the site how you see fit. I am even willing to donate a percentage of each website I make to sw5! The bottom line is, if you don't get work you haven't lost a fortune to these rip off agencies, it may mean the demand is just not there! What do you think?

Posted by stevie on 12 Apr 07

Hi!
First of all thank you SW5 for saving me. I have sent my standing order instructions to network escorts yesterday. But how can i cancel my standing order as it will only show up when they attempt to take it.
Is there any way I can cancel it before hand and what is the guarantee that they will not attempt to take the money back again.
Thanks again

Posted by H on 25 Apr 07

Stopping standing orders
Just give your bank a signed and dated letter saying "I wish to cancel the standing order to Network Employment (or whoever) effective immediately."
Depending on the bank, you may be able to do this over the phone or internet as well.
It doesn't matter that the scammers haven't taken any money yet. Just make sure the bank understand that you're cancelling it - if the bank mistakenly pay them anything after that, the bank will refund you the money.

Posted by Richard on 25 Apr 07

There is no doubt that many of the sites out there are total scams. Ones like Network Escorts (www.networkescorts.co.uk) and Agent Escorts (www.agentescorts.co.uk) are the worst. Total Cons. Burnt my fingers bad on network. These have no real method as I can see for finding any clients, so how could there ever work?
I also tried platiumnselect.com and idealescorts.co.uk too. Nothing came of plat, but after 2 months on idealescorts I did get a booking. Anyone expecting to make a fortune as their marketing suggested, is going to be very disappointed (unless you are brad pitt). Saying that, I think if you are good looking you could get enough biz to cover costs and have some fun.
I don't escort anymore, my current girlfriend is not to broad minded as my last. But If i do start again, I would prob try them again.

Posted by William on 26 Apr 07

Not Ideal
There are far better places to advertise than Ideal, who are just as much a scam as the others mentioned.
Let's look at (and then click on, because it costs them money) their current Google Adwords ad:
"Want to be a Male Escort?
Earn up to £1000 a day.
Premier UK Male Escort Service"
Three lies in three lines:
1) No-one (except perhaps the owners) is going to earn that much via Ideal. Even the site only claims £500 (and that's crap too)
2) It's not the 'premier' (ad) or 'largest' (site) in terms of the number of escorts or anything else
3) It's not the escort agency implied by 'escort service' and the site: it's an expensive ad s(h)ite.
So while I'm happy that you did get one booking, I am certain that you're the exception. Most of their victims do not.

Posted by Richard on 26 Apr 07

Richard,
I totally agree that their claims of how much money is to be made is fantasy.
However, If you search for "Male Escorts" in google.co.uk, idealescorts are position number 1 in the normal google search part (not the adverts). Is this not "premier".
If I was a lady looking for male escorts, this is probably how i would go about finding one, I can't think of any better way. This is exactly how the my client found me.
Normally I ignore the adverts and go for the top of the normal list as Google rate this best on importance.
How else would a lady looking for male escorts find them? Surely top of google is going to be the best place?
Where else would you suggest?

Posted by William on 26 Apr 07

Not Ideal 2
Which site is top of the Google rankings varies - until recently it was a (very good, even if they do spell 'bisexual' wrongly) site that is open about what it is: an ad site, primarily aimed at gay and bi men.
But they've disappeared, at least from the first few pages. My guess is that Google considers part of their previous 'search engine optimisation' as naughty (they change their rules every so often and there's been a big shake up recently). I don't doubt they'll be back.
So tomorrow, who knows? It might even be here (which I see has reached the first page of Google for that search at last).

Posted by Richard on 30 Apr 07

i would like to start to work,but no sex,maybe yes,and i have no good english,so i would like to know if i can do it,as i am 46 old,slim,and sex body,i look 35............when can i have the answer?please? let me know

Posted by margarida on 21 May 07

There is no such thing as a male escorts, taking ladies on dates, them paying the male!!!them paying the male for sex as well? to anyone thinking of doing any of the above, forget it, keep your money in your bank and spend it on yourself go to the pub instead, as everyone above as already said, YOU WILL ONLY GET DONE OUT OF YOUR MONEY, & YOU WILL NOT GET ANY WORK AS I'VE LOSS SUCH A LOT OF MONEY TRYING TO MAKE MONEY DOING THE ABOVE.SCAMS, SCAMS, SCAMS, AND THEY ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IT. Rob, LEICESTERSHIRE.

Posted by Rob of Leicester on 24 May 07

Thank god for your site, today i so nearly parted with a annual £320 advertising fee to join brookes morris international, what w*s !! Thought they sounded so good, what a mug ! Are there any genuine male escort sites or not ?? Thanks again sw5

Posted by D R W on 08 Jun 07

Genuine sites, again
If you're looking to escort women, none that I know are looking for staff. There are free places to advertise, but there will be lots of competition for a relatively tiny demand.
If you're looking to escort men, then there are several, including real 'we only charge commission' agencies, and effective value for money ad sites.

Posted by Richard on 10 Jun 07

does any 1 no wat agent escorts are like as i just registerd they took money from acount but they have given me some bookins for august???????????

Posted by andy on 28 Jun 07

Agent Escorts
Ah, so they've not only stolen huge chunks of the Network Escorts website, they've also stolen their scam.
Basic rule: if they say they're an agency and they want money off you, they're a scam. Real agencies don't charge their staff anything except commission on actual earnings.
These two say a) you can trust us - we won't charge you the monthly fee until you have a booking and b) oh look, we've invented, erm found you a booking in a couple of months, so we're taking your money now.
Was 'she' supposed to be carrying a copy of the Daily Mail?
How did you pay? If it was a standing order, cancel it now and try to get a refund from your bank. If it was a credit card, ask your card company for a refund now.

Posted by Richard on 02 Jul 07

I joined Guys For Ladies and have had ABSOLUTELY NO WORK from them whatsoever. They are a complete con- AVOID AT ALL COSTS.!!!

Posted by Dave on 02 Jul 07

Thanks for this honest site. I was thinking of joining an agency, but after reading the warnings I have decided to keep my money in my wallet. Again, many thanks.

Posted by steve on 10 Jul 07

Hi just wanna say a few things i have been with alot of male agencies and all of them have been a con including network excorts i have paid fees for nothing and like a advert what i read further up the page i had a booking and know show i think its better to create your own web site then you know whats happening take care everyone luke nottigham.

Posted by luke cowen on 13 Jul 07

if anyone knows how to go about doing a web site i would be happy to hear from you ? just wanna say with network just read up the page and i hear somone went in the holiday inn to meet somone who had daily mail and know show same story mate sounds like they are doing it aLL THE time they said i have to meet a lady called tracey with daily mail in her hand waste of time cheers.

Posted by luke cowen on 13 Jul 07

Thanks Richard/SW5, this site hs been a life saver for me, thanks a million.
You see I have just lost a high profile business and have big overheads (expensive family etc) so thought this work might suit me as a part time profession (not a cheap way to to get sex, I am happily married).
However, you are right that the only genuine site for non sexual straight male escorts is not recruiting - wonder why? One or two seem closer to genuine (sig.co.uk for example) but I have to wonder, based in Manchester, how many bookings a genuine professional person could expect from them in a year, particularly as these people claim to have a huge unfilled demand but are not even VAT registered!
It would seem best to set up your own site (as i see some have) then spend some money marketing it but I assume form all you say here that the target market is so small this would probaby not pay for itself?

Posted by John Albert on 17 Jul 07

I have now written to Cavendish/SIG asking them to address the obvious flaws in their marketing and will let you know what they say.
For example, the discrepancy in their recruitment figures from the sections within their site and the 5 "five minutes of fame" comment on ITV London vary wildy, which in my experience means they are probably being, to be kind,'creative'!
I thought the ITV bulletin on the site was interesting in that it profiled three women that had asked friends to be escorts for them and had clearly been nowhere near Cavendish. Upon refection this is probably what the vast majority of women would do?
I Tried to call them but their "call minder" was full - what a great sign- anyway they should answer the email if they genuinely are trying to build a business for all types of non sexual escorts.
Well, we will see.

Posted by john albert on 17 Jul 07

Cavendish Knights / SIG UK
Of all the scams, this bunch are probably the least expensive, but the maths still proves they're not worth sending any money to.
I'm tempted to say 'Nooo, don't tell them, let them continue to be more obviously rubbish!'
For non-sexual escorting work, even though a domain and a website costs about a fiver a year, you're probably right - you'd get more income if you offered to walk people's dogs via ads in the local newsagent's window.

Posted by Richard on 17 Jul 07

Can anyone tell me, i signed up to Agent escorts and will be expecting my first cliant soon, do these cliants show up, or have they just said iv got a booking so they can take my money, They took my money befor i regestered to go live so i find that a bit odd, so i asked them about this and they told me they had put me live before they received my phone call to activate my account. reading what i have on here i think iv lost my money and learned my lesson but im still wondering if the booking i have is going to show up has anyone else had this and the cliant has not been their.
Thanks
Josh

Posted by Josh on 20 Jul 07

Agent Escorts - the double '0' is your earnings
Yep, they've just said you've got a booking so they can take your money.
Remember these are the people who've stolen a scam off someone else.
The advice above applies - cancel any standing order and, if you paid by credit card, complain to your card company.

Posted by Richard on 24 Jul 07

Bugger wish I'd seen this before joining up with Regal. One born every minute! Paid £53 by postal order and guess I may as well have slung it in the river! Sent off Agent mandate and I'll be cancelling that asap with bank. Thanks for your info anyone know of any pukka agencies in the south east that ain't conning b@$#@£)s?

Posted by Liam on 02 Aug 07

has anyone heard of brookes-morris-international.com?
is it above board?
i am ment to be calling them with my card details but am now very worried?
they said i need to pay £350 upfront to make profile and no sex is sold????????????????????
please someone help

Posted by *Helen* on 02 Aug 07

Brookes Morris International
A complete scam - it's the latest name for Only By Invitation, Starnest Escorts. See above for stories from victims, but what happens is...
You pay them a pile of money, and they let you log onto a website (the details will work with all their names) and... you can see your profile.
The problem is that no-one else can see it - how much work do you think you'll get as a result?
99% of escort bookings involve sex. See www.saafe.info for some good advice if you're considering escorting.

Posted by Richard on 05 Aug 07

God thank for this site!!!!! Applied with Network Escorts a couple months ago... Recently received email from them stating my profile has been accepted and now ready to take bookings... received standing order form to send to my back... was just about to do it when i found this site!!!! Thanks again!!!

Posted by el matador on 06 Aug 07

Excuse me, but what the best finance articles source you know?
What you'll recommend me?

Posted by Pearmymnfem on 06 Aug 07

thankyou can you get them in shit brooks morris international were advertising in my local paper i asked them about a contract, they said there is no contract incase i dont like it what aload of bull. they said i would be gurenteed at least 2 days per week. at £350.00 for 4 hour, thankyou for this site you saved my purse from emptyness.

Posted by *helen* on 08 Aug 07

*Bull indeed*
Try to find anyone unfortunate enough to have paid them, and you'll see how likely that was.
It amazes me that various local papers still allow scammers to advertise.
Try complaining to wherever you see their ads, or talk to your local radio station about doing a story. Unfortunately, this lot are based in Spain, so I'm not sure what Trading Standards could do.

Posted by Richard on 08 Aug 07

Agent Employment or www.agentescorts.co.uk, are pleased to inform me that with the infomation that i have supplied there is a shortage of escorts in my area.I can expect 2 to 3 bookings a week, once they have recived my standing order details.The fee is 46.75 a month and the first payment will not go out untill i get my first booking.It is also a none sexual agent.Sounds good does'nt it.Can anyone tell me if this is another con as i have lost 195 pounds to all male sevices a year ago and not 1 booking, and they dont give a shit."IT'S NOT THEIR FALT IF YOU DONT GET PICKED"But its their fault you are down 198 pounds after telling you how much money you WILL MAKE when you join.If there is a real escort agent that books men 4 ladies tell me .

Posted by tom on 08 Aug 07

Not sure if this is a scam but it could be. Wonder if anyone has and info on it/hopefully if it is a scam this'll stop someone falling into the trap!
After reading an Advert in the Cambridge Crier on the 3rd of August I gave 'Adrian' a call about signing up to be an escort on his books. He was helpful and friendly, asked questions about myself, and gave me a big spiel on how it all worked etc etc. He asked for my address and phone number (which I, possibly foolishly, gave him) and said he would send information out to me if I was considered suitable. I received the information today and thought I'd have a look into the company before I went any further, because they were asking for £35 and a photograph for an ID card which apparently regulations state I have to have. I have yet to find out which regulations these are, I mean are there actually any regulations? And £35 for one card?! Having looked on Companies House for DPA Employment, which was the name to pay the cheque to, it appears the company is registered in Oldham whereas the address I was given to return the form to is near Halifax (not that far away I know but still...). To add to my suspicions the telephone number given for the company seems (after a google search) to be for a builder who lives in the same village near Halifax but at a different address.
I fortunately found this website and became even more dubious as my disbelief that there were many women wanting men to escort them (both for and not for sex) was confirmed. I couldn't see any details about DPA above but I am still dubious as I haven't found any web advertising or any in my local paper for them (how can they get me clients?) also how they can know about Cambridge I really don't know!
The money that you'd loose isn't quite as much as on some things so I can see people would be more tempted, they only ask for £35 for the ID card and then after this they only take £20 for each booking you get (which is a minimum of 3 hours at a minimum cost of £55 per hour), their only threat is that they will stop giving you bookings if you don't pay them the commission charge so you don't have that much to loose.
Is this a scam I wonder? Anybody heard anything about them?
Thanks,
C

Posted by Cam on 10 Aug 07

What can i say? BROOKES MORRIS INTERNATIONAL Yes i fell for the scam too :( In Jan 07 i spoke to Ben (lovely man) was asked to, and i did, pay £270 via post office to them. I was promised work within 2 weeks Its now 7 months and despite calls to them NOTHING has happened. If i log in all i see is my Pic/profile. They say there's INternational clients interested but need MORE MONEY from me. I told her if i got at least 1 booking i could pay for it but again NOTHING . I just wish there was a way to tell everyone EXACTLY what they're up to as they feed on people's need for money. BTW They advertised in the GRIMSBY EVENING TELEGRAPH but i don't think they care who advertises as long as they pay the advertising fee which is minimal compared to what they charge us to join!!. But I will certainly make sure EVERY female i know knows about them as i didn't know they were OBI and STARNEST too. Thank you

Posted by Debbie on 12 Aug 07

I have done the same as cam just above, after finding an add in the Bristol trade-it newspaper looking for male escorts. I called the Adrian guy who is sending me a pack.
It seems genuine as they only get money off you once you get payed (although I wasn't aware of the 35 pound fee for the badge, this could be the catch)
Anyway of getting more information about people that have applied for this?is it a scam?

Posted by Quektis on 13 Aug 07

Hi thanx for the excellent work that you are doing please e-mail me the details of a proper escort that i can join that will not rip me off as a would love to be a male escort.

Thanx

Posted by Rodger on 13 Aug 07

Of course Agent is a scam...
See above for some earlier thoughts (I'm still proud of that "the double '0' is your earnings" joke).
Let's look at the absolutely basic test - do they, the so-called 'agency', want to charge you anything upfront?
Why, yes, they do = THEY'RE A SCAM!!!
(Sorry for 'shouting', but how many times does it have to be said before it gets through?)
Compare their crappy website (come on guys, if you wanted to book an escort, would you do it sight unseen via this bunch?) with Network Escorts - they've ripped off huge chunks of that bunch of scammers.
(And if you doubt Network are scammers having read the above, I've got $100 million from a dead African dictator to share with you, please send me all your money for modalities so you can have it...)

Posted by Richard on 13 Aug 07

'Adrian'
Neither of you say what this bunch are called, but the ID card is an excuse to get their paws on your money. There is no such regulation.
It is true that £35 is not 'much', compared with the sums demanded by some of these scams.
But those sums add up. Remember that one scam attracted eight hundred victims in a month or so - there really is one born every minute.
So send the money to Amnesty International, or register your own domain (about £12 for two years of a .co.uk) and advertise yourself.
Both will be much better than handing it over to conmen. If you insist on doing so, please see above for the unique offer of a share of the dictator's cash, because I can trust only you...

Posted by Richard on 13 Aug 07

BMI
'Have international clients for you, please send more money' ha! Clearly some people do fall for it again, so well done for only doing so once.
Yep, that's right about the profile. They're not even honest enough to live up to their own promise of letting other 'members' see your profile (the only thing I can see they say they will do).

Posted by Richard on 13 Aug 07

'Would love to be a male escort'
In the words of Snake Plissken, 'Yeah, you and everybody else!' :)
Because it's much easier making money off the hopelessly optimistic than finding them the work you promised them, there are vastly more scammers than real places.
And all the ones I know of have vastly more men wanting to work for them than the demand could support.
There are places you can advertise for free, but the number of men offering to escort women on the main UK adult work website is now 7,220. The vast majority of them will never get a booking.

Posted by Richard on 14 Aug 07

Are there actualy any agencies out there that make people money? Surley they all cant be scams otherwise they would have been shut down by now.
Any one know anything about elagance4her.com?

Posted by BH on 14 Aug 07

Elegance4her
As ever, it fails the basic test = it's a scam.
There's a very interesting post at www.ixat.net/Default.asp?PageID=21&PostID=8766 about them recruiting the staff who actually do make money - the people who are expected to lie to you on the phone.
Interestingly, they're based in Spain, same as BMI/Starnest Escorts/Only By Invitation.
Being based offshore is one way they escape justice.
The other is to be very careful about what they actually promise - typical terms and conditions include things like 'we will lie to you' (they don't usually put it quite like that, but that's what they mean), 'regardless of what we say in the ads/on the phone, we don't promise you'll get any work' and, always, 'once you give us your money, you're not getting it back!'

Posted by Richard on 14 Aug 07

Explaining a lot..
That post from ixat.net, from Sept 06:
"As part of my gap year I recently visited Spain and applied for the following job advert:
Female Telesales staff required
Ladies required for a very busy telesales office in the Marbella area. Internet dating & companions.
Experience is an asset, no cold calling. 100% incoming calls & very easy and in demand packages to sell.
On target earnings 1600++ Euro monthly
Day & Evening shifts available 10am-4pm & 4pm-10pm
I was interviewed in a flat by someone whom looked more like a prostitute then a perspective employer and told nothing about the job at the 10min interview, just I would have to do my share of complaint calls and they would pay my tax. At first I was concerned it was 'dirty chat' lines but it was noisy and the girls where sitting to close for this. Went back the next day, was handed a script and a document which contained terms and conditions.
Basically from this small apartment there are 5 or 6 phones lines, to which men call (at a premium rate) replying to adverts in the UK stating they can make money for providing an escort service. You tell them there is a registration fee, you can’t guarantee them work, but you are allowed to give them a fake booking which will consist of all or some of the following:
Looking up a hotel and address close to the 'escorts' area of residence
Providing the 'escort' with a made-up profile of the client name, age nationality, etc
The 'escort' is then told that the client wants to talk to him by phone to make arrangements, but he has to pay the fee first, which they always do (paying cash only into the HSBC or Barclays) You then get another phone operator to call as the fake client. Many times the 'escort' will go to the hotel, wasting yet again both his time and money.
There is a cooling off period to which the 'escort' can claim his fee back, but is often given more fake booking enquires and his false hope will out stretch this period.
This scam is a shambles and I can’t believe it exists. It targets the poor, lonely, single dads, unemployed, desperate and naive. You give fake UK office address, use fake names and have fake departments. The website addresses are:
www.elegance4her.com
www.guysforladies.com
www.adultsrecruitment.com
www.menrequired.com
The above companies are located in Spain - also owns www.PuertoBanusGuide.com Tel: 0034 952 90 80 58
There are also the following companies run by a different owner:
www.menforalloccasions.com
www.allmaleservices.com
They advertise for 'escorts' in the Sport, Citizen, Friday ads, Loot and other publications."
The post also looks like it includs the allegation that the tax of the phone operators was not in fact paid, but the details have been censored by ixat.
Interesting that the similarities between the various sites was noticed on the sw5.info/cons.htm - including wondering if they were the same business.

Posted by Richard on 15 Aug 07

Thanks to all the people on here who have made me aware of the *AGENT ESCORTS SCAM* I have already lost nearly £50, but i am now going to cancel my standing order to them before i lose anymore.
Also, they will tell you that you now have to ring a premium rate number and that the whole call will only cost you 60p, it's rubbish, cost me £24 for 12 mins,which is money i cannot afford to lose!
*SO BEWARE*

Posted by Percy on 22 Aug 07

I cant believe *RICHARD* runs this site with bitter taste of male escorting, did anyone consider he might of been too ugly to get bookings,
I have escorted many woman in my time and they have all told me if they see an ugly escort walking towards them grinning they run
Sorry *RICHARD* but you seem to be the ring leader here!!!!

Posted by Peter T on 23 Aug 07

I totally agree Peter, I have been told exactly the same thing myself by other clients!!

Posted by frank on 23 Aug 07

I am due to pay 92 pounds tomorrow to Agent Escorts for a booking tomorrow night. So far i have been very lucky and not parted with any money.
Likewise the booking for tomorrow was given to me when i joined, some 6 weeks ago. Being relatively diligent the standing order that was completed was cancelled and no money has been paid.
Has anybody had any good experiences from this agency or is it a pure con. If what i think is the latter i am ex BBC and would like to prompt some of my ex colleagues to investigate this in some depth.
Please can i have your comments?
john1962@linuxmail.org

Posted by john on 23 Aug 07

I got a text and call from a client on Platinum Select. To cut a long story short He was a "PERVERT" and wanted photos to put on a Website www.slutnextdoor.com so be warned please He calls himself "CARL"

Posted by debbie on 23 Aug 07

To be Frank, Peter
Unfortunately for you, Richard does not run this board.
Do you have any comment as to why your messages seem to be posted from the same PC?

Posted by SW5 on 24 Aug 07

Sorry Peter and Frank its not the same IP
I do understand why you put the comment about Richard but unfortunately we cannot comment on his opinions

Posted by SW5 on 24 Aug 07

If Richard is an ugle escort who had no results,and you are so good at it Peter, then you wont mind telling everyone how you get your work and who we need to apply to.We dont write in because we are UGLY!! We dont even get a job.Read what we have said.We pay,we get fucked!!£198.00 to become an escort and i got nothing.12 month's of nothing. ALLMALE SERVICES and others like it sweet talk people like me into thinking that we will get to escort pro females to business dinner's ect, and you will get £400.That was a year ago.A year and not 1 call. So seem's im not ugly and i workout everyday how do we become escorts.WELL!!

Posted by TOM on 27 Aug 07

i paid 32o pounds to brooks morris international and havent got any work yet.

Posted by emz on 30 Aug 07

all scams,sorry lads

Posted by dave on 04 Sep 07

hmm im not worried about a woman ripping me off. more woried about those gals who you meet and they assume your paying them (i.e. they didnt read/understand the ad was im a manwhore (uh is that the term the straights use lol)) but anyway, yeah gay guys pls get the money first.

Posted by alezandro on 04 Sep 07

Well looks like ive been scammed fo £30 by Regal Escorts.
Could someone mail me and tell me how I can cancel an automatic Debit agreement other than expecting them to stop? I dont want to give the shysters any more cash.
J

Posted by peter on 21 Sep 07

Stopping debits
You tell your bank, preferably in writing, not to pay them any more money.

Posted by Richard on 28 Sep 07

anybody stupid enough to pay money to these people deserve to be ripped off. remember u phoned them. they never phoned you. and if u never handed ur money over 2 one particular agency, u would have handed it over 2 another agency which mabey sounded a bit more professional, because ur all desperate and stupid enough 2 believe that sombody is acttually going 2 pay u wat these scams are offering. ur stupid, ur sad, and u deserve it.

Posted by peter parker on 08 Oct 07

Gosh, aren't there some charmers on here. I was nearly taken in by Platinum Select except I was a little too clever for them as I noticed most of their site was geared towards the heteros. I then asked what kind of percentage of the site was gay. I didn't get a very nice email back from them, very rude and unhelpful. I never emailed them back.
Stick to the slag mags and Gaydar I think even though Gaydar isn't exactly fab these days either.

Posted by Hayden on 11 Oct 07

hi,

i thought i'd say hello to everyone. i'm new here.

veronica

Posted by veronicaflowers on 12 Oct 07

I have a letter in front of me from Agent Employment Mayfair House 14-18 Heddon Street Mayfair London W1B 4DA. Signed by Shirley Watts *Manager* all have to do is fill out the standing order and they will send me an I.D card. I assume that for 46.75 a month all I am actually going to get is an I.D card.

Posted by Greg on 13 Oct 07

LOOKING TO BECOME A STRAIGHT MALE ESCORT WITH A GENUINE ESCORT AGENCY. PLEASE GIVE ME CONTACT DETAILS OF ANY GENUINE AGENCIES THAT TAKE MALE ESCORTS. AWAITING FOR YOUR REPLY, MANY THANKS!

Posted by Scot on 21 Oct 07

Does anyone have any information *on beautiful adults*? I just signed up with them to become a straight male escort and really panicking after discovering this site.
They said i had 2 bookings friday evening and saturday evening. Friday evening nobody calls, and when I call, the client has changed her mind and chosen another escort. As for the saturday evening booking, again when I called, I was told that the client was ill and cancelled the booking.
Any info on beautiful adults will be highly welcomed.

Posted by michael on 22 Oct 07

Beautiful Adults
One of the things I like about this site is that its readers find even more scams than I can - sadly sometimes after they've fallen for them.
This bunch is new to me, but as ever, they fall foul of the basic rule: if says it's an agency and it wants money from you, the escort, it's a scam.
This is another 'we want a small pile of money (£49.99 and up) from you so you can "advertise" to other victims' one.
How many people do you think pay fifty quid in order to look at escort ads?
As a member, how many people can you see have registered?
I'm slightly surprised they're going through the pretence that it's real. Their terms and conditions include the two classic scam bits about "Beautiful Adults does not accept any liability or responsibility should your advertisement on the online brochure fail to achieve a response" and "once we've got your money, tough shit, you're not getting it back" (only the last one is paraphrased!)

Posted by Richard on 23 Oct 07

Not so Majestic Escorts
Just spotted doing Google Ads (where, as ever, they get charged every time someone clicks on the link)
"Male For Female Escorts
Majestic-Escorts.com Earn up-to £500+ per day. Discreate (sic) Clients Online Now."
If you're going to scam people, at least learn how to spell...
This lot want £20 a month, and - gosh - recommend you stay with them for at least two or three months before cancelling it because you've had no interest. Oh, you'll need to give them 28 days notice, so they'll probably take another month's money as well.
Or you can just give them £149 up front for two years. You won't get any work from it, but you'll feel better that it only works out as £6.20 a month (or about the cost of having your own domain for two years!)
... at least until you forget to cancel it and they take another £149.

Posted by Richard on 23 Oct 07

Basic economics
I know of no non-scam agencies looking for straight male staff. The supply of such men is vastly larger than the demand for them.
There are places you can advertise for free, but the number of men offering to escort women on the main UK adult work website is now 7,830. It increases by about ten a day.
The vast majority of them will never get a booking - even the ones who are offering free sex.

Posted by Richard on 24 Oct 07

I've wanted to work in the adult movie industry for years, i came across an advert in my local newspaper advertised as ugently required to star in movies, So I called them, they was polite on phone gave me lots and lots of details (Later found out all lies). So i stupidly paid the £350 registration fee as was told each job i would earn around £2000-£4000 pounds per set. Because they deal with international big producers. Time went on and nothing happened, They recomended i upgrade account to better package deal (£450more!). Gave me a date for a set, Thought it was all going through, Then i called them to find out what was going on they said they had no record of any upcoming jobs??. Every time i call i get fobbed off, Extremely RUDE on phone, they REFUSE to give there address!!, Ive been given 2 fake addresses. An opperator called Ben said he didnt know where he actually worked, but it was opposite a ship pub?? The same ship pub that DOESNT EVEN EXIST. STAFF NAMES SHARON , BEN , JULES, SAMANTHA , DARREN ALL CON ARTISTS !! Still no refund still being lied to now passed onto the euro Consumers for help. AVOID THIS COMPANY !!! i was stupid to fall for it i know

Posted by INTERNATIONALFILMEXTRAS on 25 Oct 07

DO NOT EVER USE INTERNATIONAL FILM EXTRAS !! READ POST ABOVE !!

Posted by INTERNATIONAL FILM EXTRAS on 25 Oct 07

International Film Extras = Starnest et al
It's the same 'Multicorp' crew as the escort scams mentioned numerous times above. As well as this one, they also have one for people wanting their pets to star in films!
The Advertising Standards Authority upheld a complaint about them a couple of years ago which gives their address..
<www.cap.org.uk/asa/adjudications/non_broadcast/Adjudication+Details.htm?Adjudication_id=39291>
You don't say whether you're male or female. If you're a man, the situation is much the same as straight male escorting - the supply of men who think they can do it is vastly greater than the demand.

Posted by Richard on 28 Oct 07

HI RICHARD,
THERE'S A MALE ESCORTING AGENCY CALLED MEN AT WORK, WOULD YOU KNOW WHETHER FOR SURE IS ANOTHER SCAM. I'M LOOKING TO BECOME A MALE ESCORT. THEIR NO IS 0870 0339557

Posted by SCOT on 03 Nov 07

HI RICHARD,
I SEE THAT YOU KNOW OF A FEW NON-SCAM STRAIGHT MALE ESCORTING AGENCIES. PLEASE EMAIL ME & LET ME KNOW THEM PLEASE, THANKS!

Posted by SCOT on 03 Nov 07

The one non-scam agency looks to have gone
Or at least their domain name is no longer active as a business. The registration details of that domain suggest that the owner(s) have indeed given up.
I'm not surprised: as I've been saying for years, it's much easier to find gullible men than to find female clients for male escorts, sexual or otherwise.
This means that the scammers have larger advertising budgets (it was difficult to find the real one unless you already knew its name!) and so the cycle continues.
If you want to try, a) remember you're being optimistic (the supply is much bigger than the demand) and b) do it as an independent. You can find free places to advertise, for example. Even if there's lots of competition, it shouldn't cost you anything except time.

Posted by Richard on 05 Nov 07

Men at Work
I can't find this one at the moment (perhaps they've been naughty enough for Google to throw them out of their listings) but I have a strong memory that, yes, they're a scam too.
However you can do the absolutely basic test yourself: do they, the so-called 'agency', want to charge you anything before you get cash in your hand from a client? (Not a message from a 'client', not a 'booking', but actual folding stuff.)
Why, yes, they do = THEY'RE A SCAM!!!

Posted by Richard on 05 Nov 07

i got scammed also by international movie extras, there address is below, dont waste your time contacting it though as have been told address does not exist
International Film Extras
Multicorp
28 de Febrero, 13 Local 2 (193)
29670 San Pedro
Alcantara, Mallaga
Spain

Posted by Jeff on 06 Nov 07

Have any of you lot thought about starting up on your own?? It really is not that difficult to do and also you get to keep all of your well earned cash!! Just advertise in the local rag, in calls if you have suitable premises or just out calls if you don't. Some of you are probably worried about the safety aspects of this but there are ways that you can get around that, pay a driver, or pay someone to sit in your flat and take bookings for you, best of both that way as you don't miss out on bookings while you are busy and you have the added security of having someone around while you work, or even team up with someone else that wants to do it too, you can share the cost of renting a nice place then and whoever is not busy at the time can take the calls. I understand there are legal Grey areas such as ppl living off immoral earnings etc etc but you are all on the net research it well. A website you set up for yourself is also a brilliant way of directing ppl to information about yourself and pictures, there are sites that offer free templates and domain/hosting, just have a look around.
I have been working now on and off for a number of years now, mainly for myself, occasionally for other ppl, all depending on my circumstances at the time, and I have NEVER come across any trouble what so ever, I think it is all in the way that you treat them they will treat and respect you.
Sabrina xxxxx
Anyone that wants to set up on their own and would like some tips on how to do so I am more than happy to help.

Posted by Sabrina on 19 Nov 07

On your own
Quite. My one comment is that for straight men there isn't the demand that would enable someone to spend much.
My second :) comment is that 'living off immoral earnings' never was illegal ("What is the crime of robbing a bank compared to that of owning one?" as Brecht so nearly wrote) and the law that people called that was repealed in 2004.
The situation now is that if you don't control someone else's prostitution, you can gain from it. So, provided you don't tell the worker what to do, you can be paid by them.
See saafe.info, if you haven't already.

Posted by Richard on 19 Nov 07

HI SABRINA,
YES, I'VE DECIDED TO GIVE IT A GO ON MY OWN AS AN INDEPENENT STRAIGHT MALE ESCORT. NOW XMAS IS ROUND THE CORNER, IT WOULD BE AN IDEAL TIME TO KICK START IT OFF. PLEASE EMAIL ME ON tonettorfc@hotmail.com
WOULD APPRECIATE MORE ADVICE FROM YOU....WHERE TO ADVERTISE & WHAT PAPERS OR MAGAZINES...WOMENS MAGAZINES???

Posted by SCOT on 20 Nov 07

Sent the standing order mandate off to agent escorts on friday. After reading this tonight I now realise that I need to go to the bank and stop them taking my money! I feel like a right spanner. Its a shame I didnt find this site sooner!

Posted by Dean on 28 Nov 07

hi guys,i paid brookes morris international £320 in july they took a further £290 two weeks later without my knowledge,i have spoke to samantha(so helpfull)and she has said to fax my bank statment and will get her manager, wendy to look at it,they have refused me a refund and i have not even had a sniff of work unless i upgrade that is,as i have intrest from european ladies.yeah ok!!
has anyone succesfully taken them to court or managed to get there money back?there must be something i can do..
ps.....how would one actually start there own non scam escort empire?

Posted by johnpaul on 30 Nov 07

Hi there, just wanted to say i have read all the comments here and i'm sorry to say that i was a legitimate male escort in the south of france a few years ago and it was just by luck i fell into it! All the agencies you have come across are bogus and its true that you'll pay money to scam artists in grotty flats in spain, who will pray on your good intentions, so get your own web site and learn to massage and see how you get on, but don't give up the day job!!!! sunny

Posted by sunny on 30 Nov 07

ps, just wanted to say, menforalloccassions,guysforladies,elleganceforher,idealescorts are all the same and you will give over ard earned cash and get nothing back in return, so be warned, if all these so called power ladies who are earning big bucks can't find a bloke then its a bad job!! i'm sure that a few drinks in the local champagne bar will result in some interest from a random male or 7!! KEEP AWAY AND YOUR CASH IN THE BANK!!!!

Posted by sunny on 30 Nov 07

Sabrina,
I would be very much interested is speaking with you, please could you chunk an email my way paulsylviauk@yahoo.co.uk
Thanks, its appreciated!
P.

Posted by Paul on 01 Dec 07

"Chuck" an email obviously :)
P.

Posted by Paul on 01 Dec 07

Well. At first i was confused, but after reading all the comments/articles/websites this site has to offer im clear in my head that becoming a straight male escort is just one big lucrative scam!! What a bunch of wind up merchants eh!!!
I recently lost my job in the Brighton area, and whilst looking in the friday ad's for jobs i got to the adult section. After a few seconds i saw a big bold ad looking for male escorts. Now with my flatmate already a female escort and knowing her earnings i thought why not? and like so many others here, deparate for cash, dreams of easy money, lifesytle etc i looked through google only to be bombarded with so called 'male escort agencies'. But This ad i saw in the papers had a number so i gave it a call. I was dubious as most of the sites i'd seen were all aiming at getting the guys on board, instead of actually advertising for the clients, plus ive worked in an advertising sales environment before so i know what theyre like. Neverthelss i still went along with the stupid bitch on the phone- who said she'd even knock a bit of the joinning fee off! (great!) but theres me still thinking of the non-existent money i could be making and for some reason, even with all the doubs in my mind, plus warnings from my flat mate and reading a few of the threads here, i still went and paid membership. Big mistake.
Now that was last thursday and i was told i was to have a booking yesterday. bulshit. i know those sales tactics and every day i phoned it sounded more and more like a scam as they were all saying different things and being very abrupt and sometimes rude. Needless to say my 'booking' was taken by another escort with pic on their profile, and in order for me to have pics i must pay another 95 quid- fuk off!!! i feel deflated but assuringly back to reality after reading all the threads here, just wish i reead all of them before i gave them my last 100 quid. The sad fact is theres going to be 100's more like me as there already has been. And these scruplious motherfuckers laughing away wont actually give two fucks until they are shut down. But all i want is my money back now.
The wind up c***s i fell for was 'Guys for ladies' or 'guys for scams' as i like tho think of it now. But if anyone else has joined this recently, there is a thread here somewhere telling of someone who used to work there, exposing them for what they really were. and if your like me and joined recently theres a 'cooling off period' apparently, so i phoned them back up, telling them i want my money back, and that i know of this collin period, she sounded so ungeuinely concerned it made my stomach turn because i can see right through them now. Im glad ive realised the full extent of this now before my 'cooling off period' end although its going to take alot longer for me to personally cool off. And if they dont flash the cash could anyone tell me how successful i'd be at getting a CCJ against them, or taking them through the small claims court?
Thanks people,
AND EVERYONE ELSE BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Leon on 11 Dec 07

Guys for Scams indeed
This lot do indeed promise your money back within seven days of joining iff you write to them and you haven't logged onto the website first. How honest that is given the lies, I don't know.
I'd love to hear success stories from people who've sued them, but what they actually promise to do is so minimal - allow female members (if any) to view your ad - that they could try to argue that they do it.
There's also slime like this in their terms and conditions: "For the avoidance of doubt we make no representation, promise, warranty or guarantee that you will receive work from the Website or that any Client will view your profile/personal details" and "For the avoidance of doubt, we shall not be liable in the event you receive no request from Clients or if Clients do not view your profiles."
Having said that, they do say that they'll give you seven days notice of any potential bookings (another sign they're a scam - most clients of male escorts want someone in thirty minutes, not a week) and this wasn't the case here.
There is a bigger market for m+f couples escorting together, but even there most of the clients are men.

Posted by Richard on 12 Dec 07

Time for the truth
The Times published a story called "I pay a man for regular sex" recently in their 'family secrets' section about a woman paying a man for sex.
It's attracted a lot of comments, most of them not particularly nice, but annoyingly every time I tried to make one, it was never published.
Here's one of them:
This story has doubtless sent numerous optimistic men off searching the internet to see if they too can become a 'straight male escort'...
I'm a male prostitute, but just having some female clients makes me different from 98.5% of male escorts - the overwhelming majority of clients for male sex workers are other men.
One consequence of this is that EVERY SINGLE 'AGENCY' pretending that they will find you work in this area IS A SCAM.
What makes me say this? Simple: real agencies do not charge you a penny until you have real folding money from a client in your hand. (Not 'a booking', not 'to read an email', not for 'having you on our books', not for 'security checks'.)
Sadly, it is vastly easier to find gullible men willing to hand over tens or hundreds of pounds in the hope that a woman will pay them than it is to find women who do want to pay. So the scammers get rich, and can outspend anyone attempting to advertise a genuine agency - the one example I'm aware of closed down earlier this year.
See sw5.info/straightmen.htm for more info, including their message board with a long, long list of men scammed out of their money.
The Advertising Standards Authority also has issued several rulings against some of the scammers, but without much effect: when a new scam can find hundreds of victims in a month, I weep.

Posted by Richard on 12 Dec 07

where do i sign

Posted by daniel on 20 Dec 07

Any1 heard of the site www.beautifuladults.com??
Signed up with them yesterday.
They wanted me to put £300 down today b4 meeting my first client. They 'found' me a booking last nite (24 yr old swedish girl) for this evening. I was buying into their bullshit yesterday but after thankfully stumbling across this site this mornin, I am now sure the swedish girl and the £500 which she apparantly will give me is non existant. Also, I was just wanderin, (a question which no one seems to be able to answer)if there is a real male escort agency out there, who don't actually scam you, what the hell is their name.
I Hope these people get brought to justice! fucking scamming cunts!!
Cheers 2 everyone here who saved me £300 , Jon

Posted by Jon on 21 Dec 07

Not so beautiful scam
Hooray for not handing over the money as it fails the absolutely basic test (asking for money before you have any in your hand!)
Plus as the only real people who can see your ad are those who've paid at least £49.99 for the privilege (the cost of three months 'membership') there are never going to be (m)any of them calling.
There are some non-scam male escort agencies out there, but they're aimed at the gay market, because the vast majority of clients of escorts, male, female or trans, are men.
If that's not you, and you don't have a female partner to offer m/f couple services (again, these will mostly be to men) then realistically advertising independently is the way to go. Think carefully before spending any money on this because there is serious competition out there - one free site has 4,985 men on it today and most of them will never get a booking.

Posted by Richard on 21 Dec 07

I joined Brooke-morris-international 6 months ago. I had to pay £270 upfront but was guaranteed work the next week. Well here i am waiting 6 months on,still no work, I spoke to them more than once and all i get is can i pay more money so international clients can see me there's loads interested. I said no of course. Please dont anyone send this company money they will not get u work it is a scam...

Posted by sharon on 27 Dec 07

6 weeks before xmas I was "terminated" from a 12 year managers poition!!!! Devastated and very angry I was determined to earn good money and not let this spoil my xmas so I joined a couple of agencys who told me I would earn good money etc etc and getting the work would not be a problem!!
I have parted with over £700 and had no work at all before, during and now after xmas!
I am so disappointed and completely broke unable to pay my mortgage etc on the promise of a couple of good bookings!
If there is anyone out there who can advise me about a geniune agency with genuine earning potential I would be very grateful or am I being too optimistic??

Posted by JJ on 02 Jan 08

I am considering becoming an escort for some extra cash - however I live in the North of England (nearest city York; ie. nowhere near London!) and although would be happy join an agency if anyone can recommend a reputable one, I am unsure as to how to get started. I intend first to run some adverts in the backs of local papers - any tips? Are there any wordings etc I would be advised to avoid? This is all new to me and I would welcome any advice.

Posted by Vikki on 03 Jan 08

Considering becoming an escort
If you haven't already done so, see saafe.info - there are a series of excellent things to think about, plus a message board.
If you're prepared to see male clients, there will be agencies worth working for.

Posted by Richard on 07 Jan 08

Help I've been conned! I paid £311 to beautiful adults.com after been promised two clients for on sexual dinner dates The lady "Nicky" who initialy communicated with me is no longer available to talk after I paid money! Both clients never came about and I am really worried that I'm gonna have trouble getting my money back. Any ideas anyone? Sophie.

Posted by Sophie on 14 Jan 08

Hi Sabrina,
Could you please get in contact with me I'm very interested is speaking with you, please could you contact me at ugly-beautiful@hotmail.co.uk
Much appreciated
Dwayne

Posted by Dwayne on 20 Jan 08

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Posted by mr Eriksen on 28 Jan 08

BEUTIFULADUTS FROD AND CORUPSON AND, GIRL ORE MAN FOR CAHS..200 TO 300 PUND FOR A JOB THEY CANT GIWE YOU ...
HAWE NOWE RESPEKT FOR YOUNG GIRL ORE BOYS HO TRAY TO MAKE SAMFING AUT OF THER LAIFE..ORE IS IN NED OF MANY BIKOCE OF PERSONAL PROBLEMS.
DONT WEST YOUR MAN ON DICE COPANIY..ITS NOWE JOBS TO OFER MAN ORE WOMENS

Posted by mr Eriksen on 28 Jan 08

Untrustworthy escort agencies:
I burnt my fingers with trusting MENFORALLOCCASIONS.COM Lost £195!
BEAUTIFULADULTS.COM Lost £299!
Make a notes of it, guys! Best wishes, Paolo.

Posted by paolo sclarandis on 31 Jan 08

Hi! I forgot A third cunning agency:
MAJESTICESCORTS.COM
Becareful!

Posted by paolo sclarandis on 31 Jan 08

Friday Scams
Earlier this week, I was in Guildford and saw a copy of their local 'Friday Ads' magazine. In the back is a page of 'Adult' ads.
Amongst the brothel, escort, and really too good to be true ('Girl seeks men or couples. For just sexy fun no fees and definitely no limits. 0844...' - yeah, right) ads we can see the following:
'ADULT MINDED males required, part time evening work, discreet daytime visits. High earnings, no expensive joining fees..' - this is Rebecca’s Nationwide Male Escorts mentioned above. Scam, but it seems they do actually refund their fees when sued.
'ADULTS RECRUITMENT.com is urgently seeking ADVENTUROUS MEN AND WOMEN FOR ESCORTING/EROS. No previous experience necessary. All ages. All types. ££ V.HIGH EARNINGS Call: 0871..' ('boxed' ad = more expensive) - visit the site and you see it gives you the choice of going to malerecruitment.com or femalerecruitment.com. Both are scams, wanting to charge £299 a year for an ad with a picture that only people paying at least £30 will see.
'ADULTS REQUIRED.com REQUIRES HAPPY, CONFIDENT, ADVENTUROUS & PLAYFUL MEN AND WOMEN TO ESCORT/EROS. No Previous Experienced (sic) Required. Call: 0871..' (also boxed) - adultsrequired.com is a front to menrequired.com and womenrequired.com, almost identical to the above because they're the same scam.
'EARN £1000's From Your Own Home On The Internet. Adult Webcam Perfomers Required. All Welcome. Register Free Now..' (boxed) - this is a site I don't particularly like but which is genuinely free to advertise on as an escort (you can pay to be 'featured' etc but plenty of friends get work - from male clients - without paying for this) and will only take a percentage of webcam etc earnings.
'ELEGANCE ESCORTS. MEN & WOMEN NEEDED URGENTLY to ESCORT/EROS OUR FUN LOVING & SENSUAL CLIENTS. HIGH EARNINGS ££. Hours To Suit. No Experience Required. Call 0871..' (boxed) - this is scam site elegance4her: see above for lots of stories.
'ESCORTS REQUIRED. male/female escorts urgently required. earn up to £375 per night! Height, looks not important. Experience unnecessary. Free brochure available. 01295.. Some Escorts Available' - at first it looks like this lot can't get their own website address right - solos4u.co.uk goes to what looks like a 'domain squatting' site. But it appears to be registered by Solos International Ltd and the downloadable PDF file is the standard 'there's so much work available, we need you to send us money' scam. Interestingly, the company is registered as being in the field of 'Portrait photographic activities, other specialist photography, film processing' and is overdue with its latest returns.
'GUYS FOR Ladies Escorts. MEN REQUIRED TO ESCORT LADIES To Various Functions & Events. Flexible Hours, Very High Earnings. FRIENDLY HAPPY PERSONALITIES. Call 0871..' (boxed) - this is guysforladies, and again see above for lots of stories about this scam.
There are also ads pretending 'MEN NEEDED URGENTLY' for an 'adult contact club' - there is no shortage of men for women and couples looking for sex - and 'MEN REQUIRED, looks & age unimportant' to film porn - again, the number of men looking to do that far outstrips the actual number of positions - but even without them that's seven ads, six scams.
Given that I know that Friday Ads have been told about these scams more than once, they should be ashamed of themselves.

Posted by Richard on 07 Feb 08

HELLO SABRINA
Im in the same boat as the other guys, im completely dubious about 99% of the agencies out there, and would prefere the security of running my own business. i have looked into it before, what would a professional like your self suggest initialy?
thanks Joel

Posted by Joel on 08 Feb 08

Considering starting as an escort?
1. See saafe.info!
2. There are also some good leaflets on the rest of the SW5 site, including 'Is Sex Work For You?' and 'Working Alone'.
3. If you want female clients, recognise that you're being very very optimistic - remember that of the many hundreds of male escorts seen by London's leading sexual health clinic for escorts, just three had only female clients.

Posted by Richard on 08 Feb 08

Hi
I am a prospective agent offering my services. I have a couple of ladies who have I have started off with on my books who have been on a few succesful bookings. I do not charge the escorts any sort of fee, I only ask for a percentage of the fee paid by the client.
I had heard of similar types of stories mentioned in prior comments which caused me to want to start my own **honest and reliable agency.
I'm currently networking/researching in order to find new lucrative clients/escorts,though, my clientelle is low at the moment as I am in process of building a portfolio of ladies and have a website under construction.
If anyone has any useful tips about best places to find ladies to join me, please drop me an email. Thanks and Good Luck.x.
Thanks Miss SJ

Posted by SJ on 09 Feb 08

i lkost all my money my business my familly the lot and had a serious breakdown. i decided to do anything to regain control of my life and spent my las signing up to beautiful adults and guysfor ladies who have taken my last chance and ripped me off. i cant moan as it was my mistake and i only blame myself. i tried and believed in them now i face a ruied life

Posted by calvin on 22 Feb 08

I called a company from the daily star for work, they asked for me to pay 200 pounds, I have not yet paid as i couldnt afford it when I asked what the money was for they said for my advertising and also towards the drivers, is this a reputable agencie, they promised me work within 24 hours,
Im in such a financial mess I am half tempted to take the risk, they said I would make 480 pounds 2 or 3 times a week.
Is this another con, and if so how does the Star newspaper get away with publishing this and not having lots of complaints come through from girls like me applying
please help x

Posted by sasy on 23 Feb 08

Daily Star
They, like the scam 'agency', are clearly only interested in the money. If they want money off you up front, they're a scam.
If you want to try escorting, there are loads of genuine agencies for women to chose to work for, but have a read of saafe.info first.

Posted by Richard on 27 Feb 08

Does anyone have any experience of Alpha Male Employment based in Holborn? Another agency I would like an opinion on is Diamond based in Leeds (their website seems to have disappeared!)
Thanks in advance

Posted by Steve on 05 Mar 08

Me again. I have found the site. It's www.diamondescorts.tv ... any comments would be most welcome.

Posted by Steve on 05 Mar 08

Not such a Alpha Diamond deal
Well, large quantities of the Diamond text are ripped off from the notorious scam Network Escorts.
Even the "These are not cast in stone however above and below these two ages are seldom requested" sentence makes yet another reappearance, along with "When we say guarantee, we are lying - erm, we mean the ability to supply at least 2-3 bookings per week once a Male Escort becomes established." (I slightly edited that last one to make it more honest.)
The 'Network Escorts' style con is to pretend you have a booking, so your money will start to be taken. Of course, they won't show up, but you'll be told that sometimes happens and - gosh - there's another booking already in a month's time... so you pay more money.
Complete and utter scam.
There's a small prize for anyone who can find where they got the photos of couples for the sickening 'news' page.
Alpha is the same thing with different graphics and somewhat less stolen text. In one place they have ten years experience of scamming people, in another they say it's five. Either would be too long.
The address is that of British Monomarks, a mail forwarding service. They might be sending it anywhere and, unlike the Royal Mail PO Box service, they won't tell you where if you ask.

Posted by Richard on 11 Mar 08

Spot the victim
Searching for the Alpha Male scammers on Google turned up - as one of only four pages mentioning them (the others are them and here) - someone's MySpace page.
It'd be somewhat cruel to give a link to it, but it has so much of what makes MySpace so awful.
Chip is "Wondering where everyone has gone" - well, if they're women, they're not rushing off to book male escorts sadly.
Especially ones who say "For all you ladie's (sic) .. This is for all you ladys (sic) who need that someone to show you a good time. im (sic) a nice sensitive caring guy who will do anything in his power to make sure you have the best time that you could imagine. I have been privatly (sic) entertaining for awhile (sic) .. there are more details on my web page at Platinumselect.com .. Descretion (sic) is affirmed (sic) with myself and you will always deal with me so i hope to hear from you soon (sic)"
Sadly, I doubt he will get his chance to be paid for "entertaining ladys. (sic) wining and dining has got to be a favouret (sic) for me though."

Posted by Richard on 11 Mar 08

Beautiful Adults.com ???
Ok So I Signed up, and none of it was done over the internet, which gave me hope, they seemed really cloak and dagger, and secure and like they knew what they were talking about.
Got a call a day later, please send a photo so we can process your application. Nice to get a call i thought, a real person looking at my file.
Sent photo,
Got another call a day later, we like you, you look good this all sounds great. here are our prices for advertising you to our "exclusive" list of established clients.
The Clients pay a booking fee, then pay you cash which you keep, but you pay us £315 for one photo for a year, or £395 for 6 photos for 18 months.
But of course you don't pay till we get you a booking, are you interested. Hell Yes i say.
A day later and hey presto we have a booking.
Go to the bank and Pay the money and then you'll get a call from the lady arranging the meeting (client) and then we'll arrange a taxi service for you within 50 mile radius and everything....
So Here I am. wondering if I'm about to get scammed. I haven't paid them yet, I was thinking of lodging a Rubber Cheque and seeing if the client cancels as so many other seem to have from what I read on this site.
Is there anything legal like I can do, Before paying them that makes it a little easier to get my money back should they fail to deliver??
Also I'm wondering why i was quoted higher figures than the guys above? the £299 or £300 figure was quoted to me for a profile WITHOUT a picture, which to me seems like throwing your money away anyway because who'd hire someone they couldn't see? I wouldn't
my email is spam-box@live.co.uk if anyone has any advice. Yes it's a spam box but i do sift through it looking for interesting message titles too so put a good subject up and i'll read your mail.
Cheers
Richard

Posted by Richard (Different One) on 12 Mar 08

Not so Beautiful Adults
Yes, they are a complete and utter scam.
Apart from their undoubted greed, I've no idea why they want more from you - the FAQ says it's £49.99 for three months to £179.99 for a year.
It gets worse: without paying that to become a 'member', you can't see the ads!? (Personally, I doubt that you can see anyone's but your own if you do pay them.)
Paying with a cheque you know will not be honoured is an offence. Who knows, they may have enough cheek to pursue you for the debt - by giving someone a cheque, you're acknowledging that you do owe them money.
They will never ever deliver, so don't pay them. Feel free to string them along though - time spent talking to you is time they can't spend conning other people.
Amusingly, Google has picked up a test page for beautifulmaleescorts.com too which confirms that it's the bunch of scammers in Malaga who have a variety of scam sites - see elsewhere here for a host of stories.
Usual advice applies: the vast majority of clients for male escorts are other men. If that's for you, there are much better places to advertise. If it's not, there are places you can genuinely do so for free, but the competition is huge - one site already has over 4,500 very optimistic men.

Posted by Richard the first :) on 13 Mar 08

The Beautiful LIE
Ok Yes so paying with a rubber cheque wasn't so good of me, but I was hoping it would fool them long enough to cancel the first appointment as expected.
But in an effort to kill two birds with one stone, I've recently closed the bank account in question due to being charged over £100 fees on my 'fee free' account (got them refunded after a deftly written letter of complaint though)
So I thought it would be a laugh & Somewhat Ironic to write one last cheque on that closed account. Hopefully they'll get charged an administration fee by their bank to boot. I'd just roll around laughing if that was the case.
Incidentally, I eventually got the Companies registration number from them. And then found it to be a completely different company than Beautiful Adults (I looked it up being financially savvy). So I contacted the other company 'PLSI' and asked if they were affiliated. Being a Financial services company dealing in Claims litegation I thought No Way are these two companies related. But I got an email back a while ago confirming the directors were the same and that they use it as "A Cover given the need for discretion" because they run an escort business !! The Cheek I couldn't believe it. So I've reported both to the OFT and the BBC Program Watchdog. I so hope they take me up and persue it.
What's the "much better places to advertise" you mentioned in your last post? email me please if you can't post them here online.
Thanks (and watch this space, I'm going to keep stringing them along, making the phone calls VERY long and drawn out, should I register again with a premium number altogether and pretend i've a hearing problem?? :)
Richard The Second
(I hope I've spelled everything correctly for fear of 'other Richard's Proof-reading skills which sadly I don't posess)

Posted by Richard (Differnet One) on 14 Mar 08

Men at Work
Fascinating.
Interestingly, it turns out they use a company for this alias too. Unsurprisingly, they've been naughty in relation to filing an annual return:
MEN AT WORK LIMITED
LEIGH HOUSE
WEALD ROAD
BRENTWOOD
ESSEX
CM14 4SX
Company No. 06081776
Date of Incorporation: 05/02/2007
Accounting Reference Date: 29/02
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 05/12/2008
Next Return Due: 04/03/2008 OVERDUE
.. and do look at other posts here (a Cardiff-based BBC radio station did a programme on them recently...)

Posted by Richard on 15 Mar 08

I am a 38 yr lady,recently divorced,and decided I would like to hire a male escort to accompany me to an event where my ex was going to be with his new gf.So I got online and searched and came up with Elegance4Her.I emailed my details,and a few days later I was contacted (on a witheld number)by a woman called Amy.She was very insistent and impatient and demanded I deposit a 100£ right away in their account account before they sent me any photos or gave me a password.I smelt a rat and opted not to.
They kept calling and bugging me even though I said I was busy and couldnt talk.I think they have stopped now,thankfully.So I wasnt surprised to read here that it is scam.Which brings be to ask the question,where the hell can I hire a decent straight male escort from in London?

Posted by lisa on 21 Mar 08

Hiring a decent male escort
Yep, this is another reason why such operations are scams - they're taking piles of money off the 'escorts' while making it as hard as possible for anyone to book them!
If you want him for genuinely 'social' reasons (making the ex jealous, for example) does it matter what his sexual orientation is?
Because the vast majority of clients for male escorts are other men, the widest choice is to be found looking at sites aiming at that market. Try a Google search for 'gay male escort' and look at the listings rather than the paid ads.
If you are also likely to be after sexual services, then quite a few of the men advertising there are bisexual and will be delighted to see a female client. The listings will usually say, or just check with them first...
The downside of going down this route is that they will typically be earning money via escorting men, and thus may not be as cheap as some of the optimistic straight men who advertise on places like an 'adult work' website, some of whom are offering their sexual services for free (i.e. treating it like a dating site). So while I will do social escorting, it's priced at only a small bit less than sexual work.

Posted by Richard on 23 Mar 08

Noble Men?
Found via Google Adwords (so they paid for me to look at their site), Noblemen says it's a 'non-sexual male escort agency' with free trials for both escorts and clients.
Of course, it has all the hallmarks of being another scam - even the "free" trials are charged for! Let me say it one more time: real agencies do not charge their staff, and do not make it hard for clients to book them.
It looks like they currently have eight victims, including one who needs a severe telling off about what is an appropriate photo to include in an escort ad. Don't be the ninth.
At the moment, their site has problems (oh dear, how sad, never mind) and asks you not to sign up. I say don't do so even if they do fix it.

Posted by Richard on 23 Mar 08

This board stopped accepting comments for about a week - sorry for the service interruption to all non-spammers (there are about a hundred attempts a day to 'comment spam' here!)

Posted by Oops on 18 Apr 08

hi
As being a self employed person and work being very quiet at the moment i was thinking about signing up to Rebecca's Nationwide Male Escorts to try and earn a few exta quid.
But i'm glad i clicked on this site first and saved myself some money that i can't afford to loose
Thanx and keep up the good work

Posted by Bigandy on 27 Apr 08

'Rebecca'
Hooray!
One of the things that annoys me most about the scams is that they prey on the people who need the money the most.

Posted by Richard on 29 Apr 08

And still they come - 'Candy Escorts' and 'Charming Escorts'
Both found via Google, CandyEscorts.com is looking for male and female victims who believe that they "will always have clients in your area" for anyone "between the ages of 18-65".
So keen are they to stress that "you can double or triple your earnings if you have the availability to travel nationally or abroad" that I wonder if they charge you more to say that.
With potential clients unable to see any ads, an 0871 phone number and prices in Euro as well as pounds, I suspect this is the latest incarnation of the Spainish based scammers behind elegance4her.com / guysforladies.com / adultsrecruitment.com / menrequired.com etc.
CharmingEscorts.co.uk is yet another Network Escorts clone, down to stealing large quantities of the text of the website - even "the general age guidelines that we tend to stick to are .. these are not cast in stone however above and below these two ages are seldom requested" makes yet another reappearence.
Although they promise "NO UP-FRONT FEES" and that "you should expect to earn a minimum of £390 per week" the basic Network scam is that you have to pay them £49.50 every month as soon as they say you have a 'booking'.
This will happen minutes after you join, with a booking some time into the future. Strangely enough, it will either be cancelled or you will be left waiting somewhere while the Daily Mail holding imaginary client doesn't show. But by then, they've got at least one lot of money off you, and you'll be told that this sometimes happens, and - gosh - another booking.
Repeat until you see sense... real agencies only get a cut of your 'cash in your hand' earnings. Anything else is a scam.

Posted by Richard on 08 May 08

DO NOT GO WITH BEAUTIFUL ADULTS ITS REAL NAME SHOULD BE BEAUTIFUL MUGGERS at least robbin hood wore a mask......I JUST PAID 638 FOR MYSELF N MY PARTNER AS WE WERE TOLD WE HAD BOOKING BUT WHEN IT CAME TO IT THEY NEVER CALLED OR LET US KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING DONT DO IT

Posted by DONT DO IT on 09 May 08

dream daters are another con firm as is candy and im taking agent through a small claims court

Posted by nick on 19 May 08

Suing Agent
Good luck - let us know what happens.

Posted by Richard on 19 May 08

And another one - Paragon
Just found advertising on Google (so it costs them money when you click on their 'sponsored' link) 'Paragon Straight Male Escorting' using paragonescorts.co.uk.
They say: "We have no registration fees and we work on a commission only basis. We also have the facility to guarantee bookings. No other company can boasts this. How can we achieve this you ask? Quite simply we have access to the largest database of clients that actively use Male Escorts on a regular basis."
I don't believe a word of it.
1. The front page says "No Interview! Immediate and Guaranteed Bookings!" while the 'book an escort' page claims "All of our Male Escorts will have been interviewed by one of our dedicated staff".
2. The pretence is that as a client, you call them (with no profiles on the site, you're booking someone sight unseen) and hand over a minimum of £285 for three hours. Paragon claim they only keep a "realistic" £50 of this - this is a far lower commission rate than real agencies charge (typically 25%-33%).
3. How can they "guarantee" work? Well, "we encourage our clients to speak to us when they want to make a booking, when they do this we can direct them to use any Escort that we see fit, therfore if an Escort has had a quiet week we will automatically direct our clients to use this escort."
Umm, would you use an agency that didn't give you want you wanted, but picked someone no-one else did?
4. Just how does a business that started a month ago (the domain was registered on 16th April 2008) have such a database of clients? Not least as the vast majority of "clients that actively use Male Escorts on a regular basis" are men.
There are no terms and conditions on the site, so if anyone does give them a call - it's an 020 number, thus included in most phone deals with 'free' minutes - I'd love to hear how they tell you there will be a charge in advance of getting the cash in your hand, just a small one, for something you need before starting...

Posted by Richard on 20 May 08

And another another one - European Escorts
With a Google ad claiming "We're Recruiting Escorts Age 18+ Earn £5K A Week!" it seems almost reasonable that the actual site just says "Unlimited weekly earnings in excess of £2000 per week".
"A question that we get asked a lot is 'Am i expected to have sex with the clients?' The answer is simple - you ARE NOT expected to have sex with the clients." Since you won't have any clients, it is true to say that you won't be having sex with them. Ha ha (the sound of the scammers running off to their HSBC bank...)
With an 0871 number, and potential clients needing to pay money before they have a chance of seeing any profiles, it's looking very much like the Spanish-based scammers have registered yet another new domain name...

Posted by Richard on 20 May 08

does anyone know if i can take beautiful adults escorting agency to court ???? please write back

Posted by beautiful lie on 21 May 08

Suing Beautiful Adults
Yes, but personally I wouldn't expect much to happen - the people making money from this look to be in Spain and thus enforcing any judgement is going to be difficult (one reason they're in Spain!)
From reading 'Richard (Different one)'s post above, they use at least one UK company. Unfortunately, the name given in the post doesn't seem to exist - try emailing him for more details.
Another problem is that what they promise in their terms and conditions is so low - displaying an ad to other 'members' for twelve months - that they quite possibly do actually do that. Can you see other victims' ads?

Posted by Richard on 22 May 08

Hi, I was just about to join Men4allevents.com, I haven't noticed it in this forum but that doesn't mean it's not a scam like the others! Can you tell me if it is before I decide to join? Thanx

Posted by Rich on 06 Jun 08

Men4AllEvents
I'd bet everything it's a 'scam' before even looking at the site, but let's give them the benefit of the non-existent doubt...
Annoyingly, it doesn't look like they're using GoogleAds, so I can only see them via a search that won't cost them money. (They are using the 'Friday Ads' free papers - see the 'Friday Scams' comment above for the balance of genuine ads vs scams there - is this where you found them?)
Anyway... on the front page, it pretends to be a genuine agency: "your consultant works on a commission only basis and only earns when you yourself are working" but check the FAQs: the women are told that it will cost them £150 an hour (most real male escorts charge rather less than that) and men are told that they'll get... £150 an hour = no commission deducted.
So while the consultants may well be on commission (so much safer for the scammers) the 'working' they're talking about is advertising with them not getting actual bookings.
Now I've seen that, my second bet is that it's the same bunch behind the various Spanish based scams. It's really cheap to set up a new website and this lot have a lot of them along with a range of 0871 numbers to call them there.
Let's see how much it costs to 'join'... Ah, yes, the terms and conditions make it clear that there is a "registration package" victims need to pay for, but skips over how much that is.
Although 4.2 says you can cancel your membership by "a. by letter (signed by yourself) addressed to Men4allEvents" they don't give their address (and clearly there used to be other ways of cancelling in earlier sites, 'b' etc) until the section for women victims:
"This site is owned, run and administered by ------------ trading as Men4allEvents whose address -----------------------, and who is the contracting party to this Agreement. You can contact Adrian Powell at this address."
Well, still no address, but Adrian Powell is not a new name - see the "Comments and questions regarding our services" post here.
Before we move on to find how much they're charging this time, let's look at the disclaimer:
"7.1. We deny everything, even that we'll scam you with REASONABLE CARE AND SKILL.
"7.2. We don't say we'll meet your requirements, or won't lie to you, or will correct any lies even when caught out.
"7.4. Even if we say something else on the phone or in writing, we can still lie to you.
"7.6 .. For the avoidance of doubt, we shall not be liable in the event you receive no request from Clients or if Clients do not view your profiles."
I've paraphrased the first three a bit, but not the last one. I hope you get the picture.
OK, let's find how much they want... Actually, I can't find that on their site. Probably about £300, more if you sound rich or desperate, as that's what they usually go for.
While I may not have cost them anything to browse their site, it did give me a good laugh: "The levels and type of work that you will receive may vary, making it all the more exciting"
Yeah, I can imagine that not getting any work is really, really, exciting. It will certainly raise your blood pressure when you realise you've been scammed.
I hope this gives an idea of how to read a scam site. Alas, as far as I can see, at the moment everything pretending to be a 'male escorts for women' agency is a scam. See elsewhere here for why that is.

Posted by Richard on 06 Jun 08

Thanx alot for that Richard, you've saved mealot of time, effort and most of all, money! So glad I stumbled across this site first!
So have you never found any that aren't a scam then?! I'm just intrigued now! Do you beleive there's enough of a market for straight male escorts to make it by themselves or would I just be waisting my time?! Thanx for your help.

Posted by Rich on 06 Jun 08

If you want to sell ice, you don't open shop in Antarctica
.. because although the supply is large, the demand is tiny. Same with 'straight male escorts': lots of men want to do it, but there is no large queue of women looking to pay for sex.
This makes it vastly easier to find gullible optimistic men willing to hand over hundreds of pounds than it is to find female clients for them.
Even better, some men will happily hand over yet more money to another scam (and sometimes another and another...) No wonder several of the scams use multiple names.
The one exception I found was, erm, I can't remember its name now, but they gave up last year because of the twin problems of (a) very low demand, leading to (b) the scammers could afford to easily outspend them on advertising.
If you look around, there are several men trying to work independently, but it's never going to be something to give up the day job for.
The good news is that there are places you can advertise for free, but the main UK adult work site currently has - quick check - 4,484 optimistic men already and how are you going to stand out in that crowd?

Posted by Richard on 07 Jun 08

WELL IT LOOKS LIKE I'M ANOTHER MUG FOR BEAUTIFUL ADULTS WHEN I'VE PHONED THEY ASK FOR MORE PHOTOS AND TELL ME MY DETAILS ARE POSTED BUT HAVE NO RESPONSE YET WELL WE ALL LEARN IF I COULD FIND OUT WHERE THEY WERE BASED I WOULD BE BANGING ON THERE DOOR

Posted by BRIAN on 10 Jun 08

*Majestic-Escorts.com*
Bit of a mug as i have just read through your comments,wish i never parted with £99 for the subscription now. had 4 clients contact me it now seems that they maybe fake profiles.
Thanks for the postings about majestic-escorts, if anyone else has any other info about this scam agency etc
please post.

Posted by Chris on 10 Jun 08

just reading the comments on escort agencies,i am thinking of becoming a male escort and have, like other wanna be escorts looked on various websites like majestic escorts,guys 4u,and xclusive escorts which i found advertised in my local paper,so i contacted them and they asked me to pay into their HSBC BANK £150 for the registration fee.and then said they would phone me back within an hour as they would carry out their checks,so they phoned me back and said welome to the agency,and booked me a client for saturday evening 8pm,but still wanted me to pay the £150 before saturday,all a big con, so i have now decided to do it myself,and have all the info on it.and having a website created for me by a friend of mine,which i can pay for after my first booking,all i have to pay for now is my web hosting and domain name,so i cannot wait to get started !!.and many thanks to this website and the many escorts for making me aware of all the scamming agencies out there, a big well done.

Posted by Adrian from bristol on 13 Jun 08

Doing it for yourself
Hooray for not giving them any money! You could also try telling the paper that the ads are scams too.
A .co.uk domain name costs about £3/year. One downside for escorts is that Nominet (the people in charge of .uk domains) insist on a valid address as part of the domain records. While this can be hidden for non-trading individual registrants, you're trading... so you need an address someone doesn't mind being associated with BristolMaleEscort.co.uk or whatever.

Posted by Richard on 14 Jun 08

A glimmer of memory
Ah, I've remembered the name of the only lot I was ever aware of that tried to run a genuine, non-scam 'non-sexual straight male escorting' agency - Glimmer Hospitality.
Don't bother looking for their website - the domain lapsed and is now squatted. Unfortunately, I didn't take a note of the old contact details to ask the owners to talk about what happened.

Posted by Richard on 16 Jun 08

Hi. A regular of mines who lives in the area I accept incalls at, recently texted me saying the police had arrived at his house asking why he'd been at my address and how often, he was honest and said twice over the last two weeks...complaints from an old neighbour.. she's taking down car registration details. At most, I will accept between 4 and 6 clients in any one given week. ( not every week as studying and never during school holidays,children playing about etc ) The client stated, he notified the officers I worked alone etc but because there had been a complaint, they have to follow it threw. Does anyone have any advice please? and what could happen from here..should I relocate, remove condoms etc. I am declared as self employed.

Posted by Selina on 17 Jun 08

The neighbours know?
It's up to you - from what you're saying, you're working legally (no-one else works there, yes?) so if/when the police call round, it'll probably be for the sort of chat that ends with 'if you ever have any problems, give us a call'.
(A few forces can be a complete pain, even for people working legally, so it does to an extent depend on where you are.)
If the police tell you that they're going to tell the neighbour that there's nothing wrong, you might find it stops. But if they want to, the neighbour can be more of a pain, telling everyone, sticking "I know what you're doing" notes on client's cars, etc etc.
So it might be time to look for somewhere else, or tell clients to park round the corner etc.

Posted by Richard on 18 Jun 08

Alpha Male / Agent Escorts / Paragon Escorts
Richard, what can i say, your a legend. After reading the horror stories above i now know not to become an escort of any kind, or to fall into the hands of the scammers you and other genuine people have exposed. I myself wanted to have abit of an extra income and fun at the same time, so i like many others searched google looking to become a male escort and to my amazement i found hundreds of agencies desperate to recruit male escorts with the potential to earn lots of money.I thought great.
So i filled in the easy step 1-2-3 application process. One was for Agent Escorts based in Mayfair London, the other Alpha Male Employment based in Holborn London. After submitting my personal details including a photo, i was advised by the web page that it will take 2-5 days if successful for me to recieve my ID number through the post and once accepted, i would start immediatly.
Now theres me, sitting in my boring 9-5 job waiting in anticipation for the letter(s)to arrive, dreaming of exciting evenings out whilst fetching a tidy sum of money too, knowing nothing about the scams exposed on your valuable message board. Both letters arrived today, both very simular to one another, both accepting me, both with my unique ID ref on and both with standing order forms enclosed. I was excited, ready to send fill in my bank details and hand them to my bank, i thought nothing of spending a hundred pounds, thinking i could be earning that in a single hour.
I was happy to share the good news with a close friend of mine, who told me to have a look at SW5 before parting with my cash. I have been on here now for 3 hours reading the misfortune of others who have fell victim to these mindless scammers, and i just want to say a big thankyou to you Richard, SW5 and other messages posted on here, for saving me so much money. Your goodself has taught me not to think like a mug anymore. I am sitting staring at my acceptance letters, knowing they have a picture of my smiling mug which i attatched to my application. They must have a picture of all our mugs, looking and laughing... dont worry though because i will be attatching a picture of my hairy arsehole on both standing order forms and sending them straight back to them !!!
I feel rather fortunate that i have not lost any money like everyone else has. Thanking you again Richard.
I know i have gone on abit, but as i was reading your message board, i couldnt help but notice a comment you made about Paragon Escorts and how they ask for their upfront fee although on there scammy website it clearly states that there is no up front fee at all until you get bookings...total scam.
I stumbled accross this escort agency, although a plain website, still rather inticing with commission only deductions which was a 100pound of the 330 you would earn. This one though, did NOT ask for a photo and even if you wanted to add one on before submitting your profile, there wasnt an option allowing you to do so. I proceeded all the same it was roughly about 01:00am tuesday 18th.
The same morning about 08:00 i recieved a text from Paragon Escorts advising me that i had a potential booking conveniently in the same town as me for Wednesday evening and to text back asap to confirm, bearing in mind they dont even know what i look like, but i text back anyway. Paragon text back to advise me of the time, what this lady would be wearing and that i would be paid a fee of 110pounds an hour, minimum 3 hours. I text back to confirm that i would be happy to go ahead. I even tried to call them to get more details but was directed straight to a voicemail. I recieved another text stating that because this is my first booking they need 50pound transferred to their Barclay Bank before i meet this girl and then 50pound the day after, this only happens on first bookings only as a security measure incase i did a runner i guess, even though this client was willing to pay 330pounds for someone she has never even seen a picture of, i could have looked like the elephant man for all they knew. I became abit suspicious, so i looked them up from their address and phoned security guard at 55 Old Broad Street in London asked to see if a company called Paragon Escorts were based there, he laughed and said he had been getting alot of them calls in the last few weeks !!!even he thought it was a scam, i couldnt believe it, but once again i didnt part with my money.
Sorry to have gone on abit, but it just goes to show how many scummy scammers there are out there, and its a shame genuine guys have lost money because of them. Just thought it would come in handy if you have recieved a text from Paragon Escorts...dont pay...there a big con!!!
Anyway, all the best Richard and others, i have learnt a valuble lesson whilst being on SW5 tonight, not to fall victim to scammers. I am only 26, i think i might stay in my 9-5 job a little longer, and change my career plans to something other than an escort!!

Posted by Errol F on 20 Jun 08

personally I havent had any problems with beautiful adults i have had many bookings with no problems

Posted by fernando on 20 Jun 08

Paragon - ah ha, I was right!
Thanks for that. I knew there would be a charge somewhere.
I have a horrible feeling they've had several hundred victims though.

Posted by Richard on 22 Jun 08

Fernando
Once again, the person posting to say how wonderful one of the scams is did so from a PC in Spain, the location of one of the main bunch of scammers.
Draw your own conclusions.

Posted by SW5 on 22 Jun 08

Yet another one: Escortopia
Looks very much like the Spanish bunch have started yet another new clone. Although it's not a new domain name, registered in 2005, the terms and conditions page (www.escortopia.co.uk/terms.php) doesn't work yet, but I'd happily bet that I'm right.
This time they want £49.99 (only payable into their business bank account, of course) for 3 months 'membership'.
The FAQ says that "pricing can be negotiated between you and the escort you choose" - you can't even choose someone until you've paid them, remember - but the Rates page says "Fees are charged the same whether you require a male or female escort / companion. Prices start at 500 GBP or 650 euros per booking. Minimal booking is one hour and for the above price is a maximum of four hours."
Yeah, anyone want to doubt that it's them again?

Posted by Richard on 25 Jun 08

BEAUTIFULL ADULTS ARE CROOKS
I paid £240 and now they want an extra £100 for a picture the cheek.
They told me i would not have to pay a fee til they had a comfirmed booking for me, had a call from them saying they got me a booking on the Friday with a guy called jay no one turned up....
Called beautiful adults on the Monday and they said Jay missed his flight, this story has been used on other members too.
I have sent them an email giving them 14days to refund my money or futher action will be taken, lets see how that goes..........!!

Posted by Angela on 26 Jun 08

Paragon
I've just been done by these b######s. To be honest given the false address, I'll just write the 50 quid loss down to experience, should have known better etc! As if someone (usually much younger than you are) is going to meet you sight unseen, and pay stupid amounts of money as well! Come on! I applied again with false details, using a spare mobile & got the same bullshit back. You know, meet outside hotel nearby etc, wear a white shirt for christ's sake! Oh well, it was a nice thought for a while.......

Posted by Dave on 26 Jun 08

Hi all
I have just reg with a agency called Honeyz Escortz they are a wales based agency and are looking for male and female escorts, the best thing of all i have not had to pay a fee.
The website [needs to be advertised somewhere else!]

Posted by vera on 26 Jun 08

Honeyz
Hmmm, registered or started? There's only one person visible as an escort on the site and various other things point to this being a one-person job.
Good luck, but I wonder if the URL will be removed for being advertising...

Posted by Richard on 27 Jun 08

O.M.G,, I cant believe i have just found this website... I to have joined BEAUTIFUL ADULTS for the sum of 219.00 pound.I only joined wednesday 25th June, and by thursday i had my first voice msg left on my phone asking for me to get in touch as there was a lot of interest in me and that thay had bookings for the commin weekend that thay wanted to send me out on..So dead excited i got back in touch and spoke to the first lady that i spoke to on my first call. Her name is JULIE, and she was so nice and helpfull.She said there was a 49year old plastic surgen in manchester staying at the RADDISSON HOTEL.And he was in town for a function, and that he was an AMERICAN and had used them before and wanted to meet me for dinner friday night and then all being well, for the function saturday night.Totally excited at the idea i was so stupid to fall for it.Bein in dept does strange things to your normall alarm bell,, That would normally go off at such a good offer.I was promissed £500.00 pounds for these two meetings, With no sex,Althought any extras were up to me. She advised me on the safty rules of changein my plans and letting them know my were abouts at all times.And also that i had a car available to me to take me there and back when needed.She even gave me a ref number when i said i wanted the work.So I proceded to borrow the £219.00 pounds to pay for my details to be given to the client and he would be in contact on the date night.I to payed cash into an account at a H.S.B.C BANK. I dont think thay would be to happy to know thay were helping to ripe off peolpe.As you can imagine JULIE told me what clothes i was to wear and i honnestly didnt think for one min that i was being scammed. That was untill i sat in my party clothes waiting for the call and got nothing.When i phoned up friday night to find out what was going on she said there was a problem with my booking as my payment hadnt regestered on there system.She cancelled the dinner and assured me that if i was able to fax the recept from the bank to them she could refer me to the job.So saturday came and i faxed my recept, I phoned BEAUTIFUL ADULTS To see if thay had recieved it and thay had.I was then told that julie was on her lunch and would get back to me A.S.A.P. Before the lady hung up i quickly asked her did that mean i was definately going to be working tonight and she replied YES. So i cancelled over time at my own job and ran home to get all glammed up... I spent the rest of the night phoneing the number to find out what was going on and got nowere.The number rang out every time... so i can understand richard and angela completely, although its only been one day since i payed them, and maybe i.m hopeing secretely that it wont happen to me, i think it already has!!!!!! I WILL LET YOU KNOW IF I HEAR ANYTHING

Posted by bones of my arse! on 29 Jun 08

READIN BACK ON SOME OF THE EMAILS I READ THE ONE FROM MISS SJ. IF YOU ARE STILL LOOKING FOR FEMALE ESCORTS FOR YOUR VERY OWN PRIVATE AGENCY. I AM VERY INTERESTED..GET IN TOUCH WITH SOME DETAILS PLEASE..CHEERS MISS DD.

Posted by MISS DD on 29 Jun 08

It's different for women
Presuming you understand that escorting almost always means being sexual with clients, you probably have the choice of dozens of 'non scam' agencies - London has at least a couple of hundred.
As it's illegal to 'contol prostitution for gain' - what agency owners do - it's not surprising that not all of them are run by nice people though.
Have a look on saafe.info for some tips on finding a good one.

Posted by Richard on 29 Jun 08

Escortopia!!! Thought it sounded too good to be true.
Glad i done some research before i handed over £319 fee.

Posted by T on 05 Jul 08

*PARAGON=CROOKS
Thanks mate, Paragon nearly had me over as well today. And i am a person who is streetwise to cons.
Checked what Errol and Dave had to say, AND I AM SO GLAD FOR THIS SITE.
Going to try and set up a proper business for male and female escorts so any one interested get in touch. And thank you Richard.
Frankie

Posted by Frankie on 17 Jul 08

well just to say if i found this site long time i would find somewere esle to spend my money than put it into this so called escorting world .....!
at tha age of 26 and looking the best thing since sliced white bread.
i too went for a job as a escort with a nimber of agnacys around posted on ha net.....?
i did that silly thing and sent my bank details to these people how same give a booking date with
name age ,place to meet ......?
when that date come i got ready for wot was going to happen!
WOT DID HAPPEN WAS I GOT THERE WAIT FOR 3 HOURS LIKE A GOD DAMM MUG AND THA CLEINT NEVER SHOWED UP!
THANX ALPHA MALE AND THA REST OF THA ESCORTING WORLD FOR TAKEN MY MONEY I DIDNT HAVE AND GIVING ME FAULSE HOPES IN MAKING MONEY I REALLY NEEDED !
SO..............tha story will cout.......after tha 20 of aurgust

Posted by igot scammedtoo on 21 Jul 08

I tried Beautiful Adults and did not get one single call as a result. I telephoned back a year later and said that I considered the whole idea a mistake and to please delete my profile. Despite giving my reference number they had no idea who I was. I knew I was taking a risk with £200 plus but how I regret it.
Straight male escorting is few & far between in Britain I think and besides, I offered my services as social & non sexual. A fat chance of getting any appointments had I.

Posted by Sidney on 22 Aug 08

ANYONE WHO HAS WILLINGLY PAID CASH INTO A RANDOM BANK ACCOUNT, AFTER PHONING A NUMBER OUT OF A PAPER IS A MUG AND DESERVES TO BE SCAMMED.
YOU CANT BE ANGRY AT THE SCAMMER. ITS EASY MONEY, AND IF SOME MUG IS WILLING TO PAY IT, WHY SHOULDN'T THEY TAKE IT. YOU WOULD. AND THE THING WITH ALL YOU SAD PEOPLE IS, IF YOU DIDDN'T PAY ONE OF THE SCAMMERS, YOU WOULD PAY A DIFFERENT SCAMMER. BECAUSE YOUR ALL DESPERATE AND THIS IS WHAT THEY PLAY ON. YOU ALL FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR SELVES, BUT THE REST OF THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOU FOR BEING SUCH LOSERS.
BEAUTIFUL ADULTS. PAY YOUR MONEY INTO OUR BANK ACCOUNT AND YOU'VE GOT A JOB THIS W.END. OF COURSE ITS A SCAM YOU MORONS. ANYONE WHO HAS PAID THEM DESERVES IT, AND MYSELF, ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS WHO ARE A SUCCESS IN THIS BUSINESS LAUGH AT YOU EVERY DAY. YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY UGLY. YOU NEED GOOD LOOKS AND A SEXY BODY TO DO THIS JOB. ANYONE PAYING CASH INTO THESE PEOPLES BANK ACCOUNTS IS OBVIOUSLY DESPERATE. AS FOR THE ADVICE COMING FROM RICHARD YOU ALL SEEM TO BE BUYING INTO SO WELL, I CAN ASSURE YOU, HE'S AS CLUELESS AS THE REST OF YOU, JUST AS MUCH AS I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT FERNANDO OR ANYONE ELSE CLAIMING TO HAVE HAD WORK FROM BEAUTIFUL ADULTS IS LYING. ANY AGENCY ASKING YOU TO PAY CASH INTO A BANK ACCOUNT IS A SCAM. BUT DONT TAKE IT FROM ME, FIND OUT THE HARD WAY

Posted by LILLY on 25 Aug 08

hi please please please can anyone tell me of any real non scamming escort agencies that need male escort?this is for richard and lilly and advice on how i could go about becoming an independent escort

Posted by mike on 01 Sep 08

thank u all for this site i'am really happy that i got on this site my cash is in my hands and not in ther thanks again to u richard and lilly
but LOL i'am good looking and got A really fit body so wot do i do ?

Posted by dj on 10 Sep 08

Many thanks to you guys for this space. I lost 70 quid to Paragon, and I ws about to loose 219 to Candy Escorts...Just don't fool yourself with those agencies

Posted by Phil on 24 Sep 08

CANDY ESCORTS
I FEEL LIKE SLAPPING MYSELF AFTER I READING THIS SITE ABOUT PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES.
I LOST £219 TO CANDY ESCORT LAST WEEK WHAT A SHAME.
DAN

Posted by Dan on 26 Sep 08

CANDY ESCORTS
I FEEL LIKE SLAPPING MYSELF AFTER READING THIS SITE
I LOST £219 TO CANDY ESCORT LAST WEEK WHAT A SHAME.
CAN ANYONE ADVISE ME ON HOW TO GET MY MONEY BACK?
WAITING

Posted by Dan on 26 Sep 08

Can anyone tell me if "men at work" is a responsible escort company, and if so, any experiances withn them?? Hope to hear from anyone soon. PS, I have heard all the bad press about the sites mentioned, and I need to check feedback from these guys,( men at work) to see if there are ok, or just the same old scam set up!! Thanks,

Posted by Bloggins on 07 Oct 08

Has anyone had any dealings with adultwork.com, seems a genuine site, with male and female escorts, not looked into signing up yet, just wondered what anyone else had to say, cheers

Posted by Steve on 14 Oct 08

I feel like a complete idiot, but I have unfortunately fallen for the menrequired.com scam, and lost £200. Has anyone had any success in getting their money back? I need it!

Posted by onlyme on 17 Oct 08

I have read and read and read and read about dodgy male escort firms and i am glad because i have stopped my self getting scammed by reading the information on this site.
HOWEVER, Where is there a list of any of the good ones which are legitimate?

Posted by Enticement on 28 Oct 08

Expanding on my last point i have found the list that has been put together of companies which do not act quiet right.
The entire internet seems to be flooded with companies scamming people regarding who want to start this kind of work.
There must be some legitimate good companies out there which work well, with god reputation and can be found on google? Currently though i am not having any luck!

Posted by Enticement on 28 Oct 08

My friend payed " men at work and they ripped him off. I payed sexyescorts.uk.com and they ripped me off.

Posted by Brian on 13 Nov 08

i was ripped off by candy escorts, they told me they had an italian lady in ldn 4 the weekend if i paid the £219 i could work on the friday and sat so i paid the money on a monday, on the thursday i got a call from the booking office to say the lady had cancelled due to monthly women health issues but she would b available at sometime, in the mean time they'll get me other jobs that was 2 months ago, and i can never get my advisor the booking office tell me to contact this person who is never at work and no1 else can help me as she has my file

Posted by tsux on 26 Nov 08

does anybody know anything about "Male Companion Services" should I assume that they 're a scam for asking 65 pounds for an annual membership?
By the way, I haven't paid a penny yet, just doing my research online and feel really bad for the fellow guys that felt for it and lost their cash

Posted by Joseph on 28 Nov 08

will any1 with first hand experience tell me about men at work

Posted by randyboi on 03 Dec 08

Men at Work and other scams
Basic 'not an agency, but an expensive ad site' scam.
I hadn't heard of Male Companion Services, but you've told me enough to go 'scam'.

Posted by Richard on 03 Dec 08

Hi all... I've been researching around the net about becoming a male escort for women and I have read with great interest a lot of this site.
My research suggests that women seeking male escorts is a growing industry as more and more women have become successful.
It'#s also obvious that there are dodgy agencies out there, mediocre ones and decent ones. I'd like to ask for recommendations of a good no bullshit agency that will help you get started.
I thought about men4allevents but certain things don't add up with them. Then there's Magnum Escorts but you have put them down on here.
Then I though Platinum Select looked quite good until I read what was on the site.
Can somebody recommend a good place to get started with low risk?
Thanks guys.

Posted by Jordan C on 08 Dec 08

Unfortuately I've just been stung to the tune of A65 by Male Companion Services. It seemed genuine enough with frequent texts and a booking at a local hotel to me. They insisted that I paid the fee by 5pm on the day of the booking. I followed up by saying that I was'nt prepared to pay until I could speak to someone face to face about what to expect from the job. I received a bogus call from a man claiming to be an 'escort' and a further text said that the fee was a safeguard to them as they had had escorts doing a runner in the past. After reading this site I am aware that this is an elobarate and well thought out hoax. I have always prided myself in avoiding things like this and feel gutted as a result of it. Is there any action legal or otherwise I can take? I was down to about A100 in my account when I paid the fee and stupidly thought of this as a way out. more fool me.

Posted by Tom on 11 Dec 08

Hi Every one
well, me too, i've been ripped off by
man stroke for women and model couples.
any way, life is collection of experience, you don't have to punish you're self, we learn from our mistakes. i would like to thank people behind SW5 you're really great peple.
one last think, how can i have refund from those companies.

Posted by Erik on 30 Dec 08

Hi has any one had any problems with delightful escorts? They sound really genuine on the phone. any info will be great!

Posted by JJ on 05 Jan 09

Anyone heard of companionfever.com or companion-directory.co.uk?

Posted by Alana.... on 23 Jan 09

Yep - me too.
Elegance4her.com
Scam
Scam
Scam
At ,my age I should have known better! And I'm normally so sceptical abouyt things. A nit of fun and some extra money I thought. Elegance4her.com probably thought the same!!
Don't do it.
This is how it goes:
Advert in small ads in Friday ad.
Called them - all sounded very professional (better than the office where I work) and they explained that you have to register - with the carrit that they had a client who they offered a discount to for new guys.
So like an idiot I paid - Cash for christs sake!!! into a NatWest bank account.
Then called and they confirmed receipt.
Then they called to ask if they could relase my mobile no to Client (with a 1500hrs cut-off time).
Client apparently "cancelled".
The agency even had the cheek to sound offended when I said that I had rumbled them.
lesson learnt. Perhaps I'm just lucky that the money wasted wasn't life or death, but still my money that they now have.

Posted by A mug, but learning on 30 Jan 09

Companion Fever. Another one.Paid 195.00 to get the details of my so called booking. Details given apparently the client canceled. What a mug am i!!!!

Posted by Suzzanne on 02 Feb 09

COMPANIONFEVER.COM
Complete con artists. Total rip off!!!!!
Money paid no booking

Posted by Sally on 08 Feb 09

Cheers guys! Any recommendations...?

Posted by Alana on 13 Feb 09

Hi Guys just been stung this morning by Companion Fever, supposedly they are trying to get me a job to replace the one that cancelled for this afternoon!aaaaa look please anyone please tell me some legitimate escort agencies, I am desperate, besides the fact that the loan I got is due in 21 days I really need some money as I am a single mom of 2 with no family at all so I am real upset.

Posted by trudi on 11 Mar 09

Diamondescorts.tv
Hi just like everyone else on here thought i could earn a bit of extra well needed cash by becoming a male escort, i come across diamondescorts.tv Has anyone had any dealings with them? i haven't paid them anything yet but they say they want £50 for an Id card? Is this a scam? Comments appreciated
Thanks Luke

Posted by Luke on 17 Mar 09

Diamond Escorts TV
If they say they're an agency and they want money off you, they're a scam. It really is that simple.

Posted by Ian - XW5 on 20 Mar 09

yep also got stung by companion fever..paid money into bank cash only..this was due to some crap ..supposed to be for ins purposes..told id get a call..danny whom was supposed to be the agent then suddenly vanished..i got the call but how fake it was..a spanish woman pretending to be my date..im now trying to recover my money my self but to no avail..can any one help at all

Posted by joanne on 24 Mar 09

Model Couples
Thankfully I found this site first as I was about to be another person conned by this company I was supposed to pay on fri by 2pm and have work by 8pm, see the email they sent to me hope this stops any more people getting ripped off
Thank you for your interest in Model Couples.
In order for us to finalize your registration, please make your payment either by transfer or direct into any branch of NatWest.
All Companions have to be licensed which is incorporated in the Registration Fee of £263.35 (incl. VAT) for written profile only, £378.35 (incl. VAT) which is for picture profile with 1 photo or £458.85 (incl. VAT) for the Full Package which allows for 6 photos and international work.
The fee covers your web profile and uploading of your pictures. It also includes all admin costs and is valid for one year.
The account is in the name of : Blue M Ltd.
Sort Code : 53-81-16 Account Number : 82122679.
Please quote your reference number E1470 and contact the office when you have registered.
Model Couples
0871 704 2076.

Posted by Andy on 02 Apr 09

hi stupidly (i feel now) two days ago i joined an escort agency called men4ladies.com, ive not heard anywhere anything bad about them that inc. this site to. but im just wondering if anyone has heard anything about them.
Are they a scam? i dont know and im sure someone will post a message saying "probably".
Does anyone know any that really work?

Posted by Paul on 04 Apr 09

phoned companion fever up, they phoned me back about 2hrs later had a date all set up for a night out put 195,00 quid in barclays bank
account 33701352 sort code 20-40-71.baily said i would get a phone call 2 to 3 hours before date got call someone asking for someone eles.phoned up to complain the person i spoke to sounded like the person who phoned me.ive asked to speak to baily a few times just keep getting fobed off.
they do ot return your calls dont listern to all there bullshit they say people who write theses
sort of comments are just bitter.**dont fall for there storyies there just not true

Posted by tom on 10 Apr 09

Just would like to say don't trust Adorabelles, payed £251 after they told me they had a booking for me, i was told he would be calling me to talk before meeting, 8am my phone rang went to picl it up they hung up. I waited untill 10am as my date was for 2am lunch, still nothing so i called the agency 3 times before i got an answer and was told they would look into it.
within 2 min my phone lit up but did not ring witheld number, adorabelles called me back saying my date had tried calling twice and could not get through and they have now realeased another number too him for someone else, strange i thought i believe the agency prank called me twice the second time a minute after i rang them. and within 5 min of him calling me the second time they had given him to someone else, they used him as bait to get my money,i have not heard anything since from them in a week although they said i would be down as priority

Posted by Tina on 14 May 09

Hi Richard,
I paid men4ladies £249 on June 18th after 'registering' on the phone. I thought about it, realised it's a probably a scam and tried to cancel the cheque. Alas, a day too late. desperate times make desperate, and stupid, mindset. anyway i rang them up today and kind of accused them in a roundabout way. they were annoyingly convincing - they have full and convincing answers for any questions but they gave the old 'you paid for a service and we put you on our site'. I have a 4 line profile (without a pic) on men4ladies.com. I have emailed them saying I'll kick off to the bank and the consumer services department etc.. if they don't give the money back. worth a try. i was also told 'someone tried to ring you on friday' and i'm 99% no-one did. and clients always use withheld numbers and never leave voicemails'. i just wanted to do social escorting, but after reading this forum I'm guessing, without self-promotion, it is a naive piss in the wind? The money has already left my account, do you think I could take it the small claims route? or is men4ladies actually genuine? Help!

Posted by ephemeral on 23 Jun 09

Hostname Country Code Country Name Region Region Name City Postal Code Latitude Longitude ISP Organization Metro Code Area Code
81.32.218.44 ES Spain 51 Andalucia Málaga 36.7167 -4.4167 Telefonica de Espana Telefonica de Espana

Posted by model companions on 23 Jun 09

You need help? so help me to help you, every body complains WHICH DOSNT MAKE ANY DIRRERENCE TO THESE COMPANIES. nobody doing anything even just to email me to complete my legall process AGAINST THEM.You have around 90% chances to get refunded if you got scammed by dodgy agency AND I AM SUCCESSFULL AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM DOING, I have been many times when I was new to this business and understand how does it feel.I dealt with few such agencies. I NEED MORE EMAILS, COMPLAINTS AND EVIDENCES FOR LEGALL PROCESS. I AM ALREADY IN PROCESS TO DEAL WITH THESE NAMED AGENCIES. THEY ARE ACTIVE BECAUSE NOBODY IS TAKING ANY ACTION. I AM THE ONE WHO IS TAKING ACTIONS AGAINST THEM BUT NEED YOUR EMAILS
Any body have been scammed and want to get refunded or just want at least to stop them especialy by:
glam-international.co.uk, male recruitment, escort@male-escort-services.co.uk or any other dodgy escort agency so please email me what exactly happened, I will contact you. Just email me please and spend bit of your timeeMAIL ME ON dudedawod@yahoo.co.uk THE MORE COMPLAINTS AND EMAILS I RECIEVE THE MORE CHANCES ALL OF YOU GET REFUNDED AND SHUT THEM DOWN. PLEASE DO IT AND DONT WASTE TIME. dudedawod@yahoo.co.uk

Posted by Dave on 29 Jun 09

I was interested in doing straight male escort work last year and phoned men4allevents, i was told the registration fee was £250 but was on offer for a six month contract for £129. After thinking it over i said i couldnt afford this so Charlie she said she was called agreed to phone me back a month a or two later which she did. Then the third time ringing me back said the fee had dropped to £60 and she had work in my area. I mulled it over and the next she rang i ageed after her convincing chat. So i paid £60 and of course had no work but she still txt's me that she is getting me work. well i have learnt my lesson.
S P

Posted by S Penge on 03 Jul 09

Guys BEWARE.....MODELCOUPLES IS A SCAM. I was about to register into one of below packages but I asked them questions like : What guarentees my booking? Do You have a refund policy? Give me your office address to visit in person? NO ANSWER FROM THEM......
Dear Neo,
Thank you for your interest in Model Couples.
In order for us to finalize your registration, please make your payment either by transfer or direct into any branch of NatWest?
All Companions have to be licensed which is incorporated in the Registration Fee of £263.35 (incl. VAT) for written profile only, £378.35 (incl. VAT) which is for picture profile with 1 photo or £458.85 (incl. VAT) for the Full Package which allows for 6 photos and international work.
The fee covers your web profile and uploading of your pictures. It also includes all admin costs and is valid for one year.
The account is in the name of : Blue M Ltd.
Sort Code : 53-81-16
Account Number : 82122679
Please quote your reference number JQ3007 and contact the office when you have registered.
Model Couples
0871 704 2076.

Posted by Neo on 22 Jul 09

Model Couples charging VAT
That's interesting, particularly as they're presenting it as a UK company. I wonder what HM Customs and Revenue would have to say about it. Do they declare a VAT registration number?
I also wonder if it would be possible to find out what sort of bank account it is - if its turnover is more than £250k a year (not impossible, alas, as that's at most 'only' a thousand victims) they would get charged 32p or 33p per cheque paid into the account. Even if it were for a penny...

Posted by Richard on 24 Jul 09

Nearly got scammed by only by invitation until I read this site.Thanks to the site I have not lost£320.They trade under this name,starnest and Brookes Morris international.They have made several phone calls to me by two girls called Jenny and Abby asking if I have decided to sign.They have not even seen my picture yet.How do they know what I look like?

Posted by Joe E.Midlands on 18 Sep 09

Back accepting comments again
It's taken longer than we hoped, but you can now leave comments here again. Sorry for the downtime.

Posted by The Management on 03 Feb 10

Sorry Lucy, but if you as a woman think you would not pay for sex I feel sorry for you. I saw so many lonely ladies and they have it written in their faces and they would rather die than to pay gigolo to make them happy and light they fire. Why? I tell you why. Women does not respect man and they think of them as something lower (not all of them of course). Woman generaly thing man must pay for them in bars, seduce them and bla bla.
I got offer several times from ladies that they will pay me for sex or just to have fun. Believe or not also experienced escort girls were paying every expenses for whole night for me and I did not spent even peny. Why? Just because I make them feel great. That is all.
This businesses works. Male escort works, but not on the internet. Not that there would not be demand. The problem is somewhere else. In woman's head.
Don't get me wrong I love women, but I am just disappointed by what they think of man and how they treat a man. Also I have quite good experience with female escort and none of them are good in sex. I mean if you do some job and you saying that you like it, than you have to read and learn and practice and not just think that you are good and take advantage of that you are a woman and society brainwashed us that woman are gold and man are just pure shit who serve to woman for free..

Posted by jelen on 14 Feb 10

got scammed of 250quid by men4ladies. i paid it they said they had a dutch girl in cardiff for me! but they wudnt release my no until the cash cleared, the cash cleared after the weekend so cudnt c this fiction of my imagination. and iv had no call since for any other work. joke.

Posted by mug on 15 Feb 10

is this helpful???
You need help? so help me to help you, every body complains WHICH DOSNT MAKE ANY DIRRERENCE TO THESE COMPANIES. nobody doing anything even just to email me to complete my legall process AGAINST THEM.You have around 90% chances to get refunded if you got scammed by dodgy agency AND I AM SUCCESSFULL AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM DOING, I have been many times when I was new to this business and understand how does it feel.I dealt with few such agencies. I NEED MORE EMAILS, COMPLAINTS AND EVIDENCES FOR LEGALL PROCESS. I AM ALREADY IN PROCESS TO DEAL WITH THESE NAMED AGENCIES. THEY ARE ACTIVE BECAUSE NOBODY IS TAKING ANY ACTION. I AM THE ONE WHO IS TAKING ACTIONS AGAINST THEM BUT NEED YOUR EMAILS
Any body have been scammed and want to get refunded or just want at least to stop them especialy by:
glam-international.co.uk, male recruitment, escort@male-escort-services.co.uk or any other dodgy escort agency so please email me what exactly happened, I will contact you. Just email me please and spend bit of your timeeMAIL ME ON dudedawod@yahoo.co.uk THE MORE COMPLAINTS AND EMAILS I RECIEVE THE MORE CHANCES ALL OF YOU GET REFUNDED AND SHUT THEM DOWN. PLEASE DO IT AND DONT WASTE TIME. dudedawod@yahoo.co.uk
Posted by Dave on 29 Jun 09

Posted by mug on 15 Feb 10

have anyone heard or dealt with 7thheavenescorts? one of those things you read at classified pages of Daily Star. So, decided to give it a trial (curiosity kills the cat).
A lady called Caley created an immediate profile of me (without asking for fotos!), claimed a woman in her 30's is waiting for me that Tuesday for a minimum of 3hours shift (worth £270), all I am required to do is complete the registration by paying £200 into an HSBC Acn. I asked whether i can pay by installments or get the £200 taken from my potential £270 shift. She politely refused, saying the money is for my insurance. After further deliberations, she gave me an offer, instead of installments I will be getting a £40 discount. So i guessed, £160 is a good offer.
On my way to the bank, commonsense came in; why should someone be so desperate to give me a 20% discount, there's nothing like a free lunch, there must be a catch. Good a thing, i had activated internet on my fone, so I googled 'scam male escort agency', SW5 popped out. I saved myself a few hard-earned pounds and embarrassment.

Posted by theman on 17 Feb 10

MEN4LADIES This is a total scam paid £249 for the year i know im a mug but didnt know any different. got a couple of phonecalls from potential clients but nothing paid money into hsbc got promised a client for that weekend but nothing still waiting this was 3 months ago. its a SCAM SCAM

Posted by OZ on 02 Mar 10

Domain name: men4ladies.com
Registrant Contact:
Hosting Services Inc.
Tech Support ()

Fax:
223 W Jackson Blvd
Suite 1014
Chicago, IL 60606
US
SCAM SCAM SCAM

Posted by OZ on 02 Mar 10

Let's face. We are all tempted by something that looks too good to be true - and going out with women AND being paid for it comes under that description. Like everything else that looks too good to be true - any business opportunity that asks for money up front - is more than likely to be a scam. Buyer beware! If you want to make money - work hard. Nothing comes easily in this life and I'm sure all of wouuld agree if we are honest about it.

Posted by Paul on 07 Mar 10

MANDATE PROMOTIONS
Pretty much convinced they've scammed me out of my cash! Never seen their name mentioned on a scam list, but no doubt they're the same as the others scamming filth!
Please do some research on them.

Posted by Kyp on 08 Mar 10

So, what do you think?
(To save you asking, no-one knows of any genuine agency looking for straight men
who only want to escort women. Sorry. There are free places to advertise,
but one such site has over six thousand optimistic men already...)
(Is it a scam? If it claims to be an agency and asks you for ANY money
before you have cash in your hand from a client, it's a scam. It really is that simple.
We love hearing of ones you have found, especially if you didn't pay them though.)

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